I haven’t checked in on this game since around launch. Anyone want to bring me up to speed on what’s happening? I gather the latest expansion pack is priced differently than prior DLC?
Also, that line about discussion being a privilege seems icky.
The part where they said “The right to discuss is a privilege—it is not an entitlement you earn by playing the game” made me laugh out loud. What a ridiculously bad public take hahaha
Right? Like, if I want to be as charitable as I’m capable of being, I could understand that sentiment if you are talking about your own official forums on your website. Like, sure, if you own the content and the forum, you have the power to determine what is and isn’t acceptable on your platforms. It’s a stupid determination, mind you, but it’s within your power. However the impression I gather from the article is that they’re referring to the Steam forums, which is absolutely asinine to me.
They are referring to the steam forums, and in one of their own comments in said forum they say that theyre required by steam to have those forums, in response to someone asking why they dont shutter the whole thing if they cant handle responding to bug fixes and the like.
So its not actually a privilege, its a requirement to sell the game.
For OP or others wondering about context:
It requires a surprising amount of digging to really try and figure out what started all this, but from my rudimentary research, it seems to me that this is a problem that’s existed for a few games now and has steadily gotten worse, stemming from high DLC prices and an equally high number of, potentially game breaking, bugs, across multiple games that don’t get fixed as it’s very quickly on to the next one for CA.
There’s rumination that it’s because the studio is constantly working on multiple games at the same time and just shoves everything out without having the proper time to go back and make sure everything works like it should.
This seems like it came to a head with a recent DLC pack’s price increase while containing equal or lesser content than Warhammer 2 DLC, which was cheaper on release. This prompted review bombing from the community, which prompted a response from one of the lead devs, Rob, who basically said (paraphrasing here) “Costs are up, there’s no good time to do this, but we have to raise the DLC prices and challenge ourselves to make the content better to match”.
Turns out the community doesn’t think the content is better to match. CA doubled down on that position, and here we are.
And doubled down hard, since the boycott bans are killing off their more popular mod creators.
A surprisingly increasing number of companies seem to be making suicide sprints lately.
They know the world is ending so it’s a sprint to be top of the leaderboards.
Cheap money (in the form of loans) has reduced. This means that investors are suddenly putting a lot more pressure on the top. In good companies, this is dealt with by the leadership team. Unfortunately, a lot just let the shit roll downhill.
There is also the issue of compartmentalization. In larger companies, the people dealing with the complaints have little to do with the people who actually need to change things to fix the root cause. This leads to the schizophrenic/sociopathic behaviour we see. The mouth has very little idea what the hands are doing.
Right, I can’t remember the Creator’s name, but apparently they supported a boycott and got banned for it, removing access to their workshop account as well, and they created one of, if not the most subscribed mod for the game. Maybe you know that, I haven’t played Total War since Rome 1, so I’m way out of touch
Considering how consistent the complaint of how much SEGA is forcing CA to act like a shittier version of Paradox, that’s not surprising.
Since the niche of players that buys Total War games will hardly budge upwards, the only way to maximize profits is to squeeze those suckers with endless DLC. No wonder every game since Shogun 2 has had blood as a separate DLC.
Its crazy to me that a ban from the community page removes your contributed mods too.
Guess it must be pretty bad if your mod creators, the ones making you free content to keep your players around, are getting banned for being pro boycott.
If they ban the right creator, I wonder if a bunch of mods will start breaking similar to that guy who removed his packages from npm, breaking everything
Ah, yes. The leftpad incident.
“The right to discuss is a privilege” - someone is very confused about the difference between rights and privileges and also wrong.
I had to check. They actually said this. I’ve never played Warhammer (I have been interested, just haven’t gotten around to it) and I don’t know these devs at all, but contradicting themselves with just seven words in the same sentence is actually kind of impressive.
Games Workshop is renowned for shitty treatment of their customers. Looks like whichever studio develops their IP for games will do the same.
That’s pretty terrible and should put people off buying anything from them. They increased pricing, and when community backlash happens they just ban everyone who dares express an opinion that isn’t positive.
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Tone deaf company. My friend wants me to get into this series so badly, but this article details what a disgusting relationship CA has with its customers.
The series is still great, but decisions by the company recently have really been bad.
Each time I check the r/totalwar subreddit, there seem to be another PR fuckup from CA. It’s really sad considering they were peaking just a few years ago with TWW2. Stopped maintaining my mods due to it.
Valve should remove Total War Warhammer 3 from sale. Been a Dick to your customers is not something that Valve should tolerate.
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They even closed the Steam discussion thread and didn’t have the decency to properly link to the “New Discussion” wherever the fuck that is taking place. CA have their heads so far up their ass that every bit of shit smells wonderful to them at this point.
Edit: Found the link
Oh look, another reason not to give a shit about ultra-fashy WH40k
I think you’re thinking of Games Workshop, the IP holder for WH and WH40K. This is about Creative Assembly, the developer of the Total War RTS games, mostly historical, but also 3 set in the WH universe. They basically developed a very adversarial relationship with their core audience and failed to innovate in decades. Oh wait it is kinda similar to the Games Workshop situation…
40k is, in part, parody to make fun of fascists. That’s why it’s so absurdly over the top. The fact that fascists like it says more about them than the setting.
Yeah, Sure. Way to much hero worship and storylines where the genetically pure supersoldiers of the empire are the good guys to be a parody of fascism.
They aren’t the good guys. A lot (too much if you ask the community) of the fiction is told from the perspective of the imperium/space Marines, but that doesn’t make them the good guys.
They go around saying things like “The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal.” They clearly are not meant to be the good guys, even in their own stories.
The problem is media literacy is so poor that far too many people look at quotes like that and think “that’s a good point”. Even the creators have put out press releases about how all the fascists are missing the point.
That’s an absurdly surface level examination.
You sadly did nothing to deepen my understanding. But there were luckily other. You can now tear into me for not using google or something…
I think you might be taking this internet thing a little too seriously. We all have misunderstandings about stuff but it’s not good to stubbornly insist that you know what you’re talking about despite clearly never having actually looked in to the material. That’s the extent of my tearing in. But you are right in that I should do better about actually saying things of substance instead of trying to be snide all the time.
There are no good guys in 40k, only various flavors of evil. And for bonus points this has nothing to do with 40k.
Protagonists aren’t always the good guys. Anyone would tell you there are no good guys in 40k and everyone lives a brutal life under eternal war, showing the absurdity of facism.
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1.) a literary or musical work in which the style of an author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule.
2.) a feeble or ridiculous imitation.
In that case, I don’t think GW knows what parody is.
It is a ridiculous imitation of a theocratic fascist society.
But…this has absolutely nothing to do with WH40k? The fuck are you talking about?
They are either a troll or an idiot, in either case best to just mute and move on instead of giving them attention.
isnt total war warhammer about w40k?
No, it’s about Warhammer fantasy, also Games Workshop, but different universe. Creative Assembly - the Total War guys - have never made a 40k game.
lol, no. Makes it pretty obvious you don’t know what you’re angry about.
uh Im not that guy lol
Im just a random person who made a throwaway comment which happened to be wrong
at this point the confusing naming is a pretty good shibboleth to show if you know what you’re talking about
you failed
Dumb take. That’s not what’s at issue here and making it an excuse to red herring a series you dislike is really dumb.
But violent video games and rap music is still a problem though right?
Wait what? The “everyones evil” franchise has evil people in it? Gasp
