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The state of Gaza’s hospitals: Surgeries without anesthesia and with only mobile phones for light. Vinegar from the corner store as disinfectant. 5,000 patients in a hospital built for 700, some sleeping on the floor. No power, no clean water, little fuel.
Well, don’t declare war on a country that you are dependent upon for all your resources and then expect its help.
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They border Egypt. Surely their fellow Muslims would help them and not lock them out.
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- Muslim: Around 90-95% of the population. 2. Christian: Approximately 1-2% of the population. 3. Other or non-religious: The remaining 2-9% of the population.
I agree that ethnostates are not a good thing, but that is clearly what Palestine is, hence their ridiculous bullshit. Israel is a least making an attempt at being non-denominational in government. It is a safe haven for Jews, but it does not have a national religion and is careful to not make laws that raise one religion over another. The current administration is less tolerant of those rules and isn’t that great, but the conflict has been around longer than them. The whole homeland argument is so outdated. The Jews got pushed out by them many years prior. It’s been a back and forth for centuries. They need to share, but the Palestinians are mostly Muslim and are assholes. They are responsible for causing violence instead of brokering peace. They started a war on there home turf. They are the reason people are getting killed. Are you denying that they launch rockets are Israel from within their civilization areas because that shit’s well documented.
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It’s so strange how people do some mental gymnastics to think that Israel is completely justified in all of their prior and current crimes against humanity.
Heck, the freakin hostages and Israelies in hospital in Israel have publically ridiculed the government and the army, hence Netanyahu is bunkered down hasn’t visited anyone.
Apparently he went to visit the troops for a photo op, and they booed him.
My take on it is that many of the people in the Palestinian territories have a backwards culture where women are relegated to home life and queer people are to be hung. This isn’t just a small pocket of their communities. These are the people in charge. They don’t just want land. They want to eradicate cultures that are different from theirs. Many peace talks occurred over the past half-century, but they always end because the Palestinians just want to get rid of Jews and anyone that doesn’t submit to their narrow worldview. These shitty people allow their leaders to shoot rockets at Israeli cities. They could come to amicable agreements, but don’t. This is what causes the apartheid-like conditions. They did it to themselves. They then decided to let their leaders declare war and are not paying the price. The bad guys are filling their homes, that they know are targets, with women and children. Many people use Islam to justify monstrous actions. They think that all other ways of life are an affront to their beliefs. If the people of Gaza want to continue to exist, they need to get rid of their terrorist government.
Palestine didn’t declare war . . .
Big brain take right here
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You can’t distinguish between Palestineans and Hamas, why are you surprised nobody wants to talk to you
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The most uninformed and biased parroting can be found by people keep grouping both the West Bank and Gaza together under “Palestine”. That’s when you know they don’t have enough knowledge of the region or conflict to contribute anything meaningful to the conversation beyond parroting the words of hate groups and terrorists.
A regime is not the people around them. Should your house be bombed because your asshole neighbor did a terrorist attack?
this is a very simplified view of the conflict.
More simplified than drawing a circle around an entire people, calling it “Hamas” and then casting judgment?
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Then we agree. Israel should spare the civilians of Gaza. Instead of indiscriminate bombings of hospitals and critical infrastructure
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Hamas is the government of the Gaza Strip. They declared war. The Gaza Strip is now a war zone because the people in charge started a war.
That’s like saying the Provisional IRA was the government of Northern Ireland. Yes they do have a political force but are better described as a paramilitary.
Hamas does not represent the people of Gaza. The civilians. The humans, being bombed mercilessly by Israel
This literally says that it is the defacto government of Gaza. Just because another political body doesn’t agree doesn’t mean that they aren’t the ones controlling the day to do. They don’t have a democracy, which is on them to correct as well. Arab culture does not promote the type of mentality required to support Democracy. It’s just rugged tribalism where women are relegated to a form of slavery and children are indoctrinated to a culture of hate. That population was being regulated by Israel to provide order. They wanted independence from Israel and were unwilling to work on a means to assimilate. It was unable to form a productive society and was just breading terrorists.
Sounds like you’re advocating for a can of Raid. Like they’re “sub-human”
This dude made some points and this is your best response?
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit reasons to excuse bombing children to me
It’s almost like they were forced to be dependent on that country and never wanted it in the first place
“dependent on” is a funny way to spell “occupying you”
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Palestinians are not Hamas.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The only thing worse than the screams of a patient undergoing surgery without enough anesthesia are the terror-stricken faces of those awaiting their turn, a 51-year-old orthopedic surgeon says.
If more aid doesn’t come in, I fear we’ll get to the point where going to a hospital will do more harm than good,” Mehdat Abbas, an official in the Hamas-run Health Ministry, said.
When Israel cut fuel to the territory’s sole power plant two weeks ago, Gaza’s rumbling generators kicked in to keep life-support equipment running in hospitals.
At Nasser Hospital in the southern city of Khan Younis this week, nurses and surgical assistants held their iPhones over the operating table, guiding the surgeons with the flashlights as they snipped.
At Shifa Hospital, Gaza’s biggest, where Abed also worked this week, the intensive care unit runs on generators but most other wards are without power.
The scenes — infants arriving alone to intensive care because no one else in their family survived, patients awake and grimacing in pain during surgeries — have traumatized Abed into numbness.
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Horrific. The perpetrators should be held to the same account.