• M137@lemm.ee
    25·
    1 year ago

    Exploring space via all the cool science, sci-fi movies and games is good enough. Also, tripping balls.

  • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
    24·
    1 year ago

    Lol

    You think we’re going to colonize space?! We can’t even agree to feed and house the humans here, and not because we lack the resources but because the economy requires scarcity to increase private profit. We can’t even agree to stop destroying our only world/fishbowl to continue to profit a relatively small group of sociopaths who already have enough for 50 lifetimes. We can’t even agree to stop killing each other over inherited melanin quantity.

    We are a solidly type 0 civilization. We’re far more likely to keep beating each other to death in the dirt over who gets the most capital until we destroy ourselves. Maybe if we eventually alter our genetics through technologies like CRISPR to weed out our most vile, least social impulses like insatiable selfishness, low intellect, and violence, then maybe those people will be able to stop undermining eachother long enough to establish a significant presence outside this rock.

    But then we’ll no longer be human, which I’m more than fine with because we’re trash but most humans seem to think we’re worth a damn despite 10,000 years of recorded history proving otherwise.

    You want a space faring potential? Try Alpha Centauri. Want fart jokes, snake oil con artists, and murder over ignorant superstition and sociopathic greed? Yeah, you found the right place. Wanna buy a gun?

    • Trantarius@programming.dev
      15·
      1 year ago

      I have a metal cup on my desk. This cup used to be a rock. Humans took that rock, and placed it into an environment specifically tailored to remove just the molecules we want from it. It was melted, using temperatures far exceeding what a human could survive. It was formed into a sheet, then pressed into shape, using tools specifically crafted for that one purpose. It was painted with a compound not naturally found anywhere on earth, because someone thought it should be green. It was packaged in organic compounds carefully formulated and shaped through hundreds of processes to ensure it couldn’t be damaged on its trip to the other side of the planet. All of this for a cup. Why? Because it’s slightly more comfortable to drink out of. A problem that wouldn’t even register with any other living thing, solved with efforts far beyond their capabilities. And that is our closest competitor.

      Humanity has accomplished more in the last hundred years, hell even the last ten, than anything else on earth (or beyond, for all we know) ever has. Yeah, war, greed, and racism are a thing, but it hasn’t stopped us before, and won’t stop us now. You are comparing real people to some idealized fantasy. A fantasy that only seems attainable because of what we have already accomplished, not in spite of it.

      We only aspire to do better because we know what we are capable of.

    • applebusch@lemmy.world
      14·
      1 year ago

      Bezos is estimated to be worth $150 billion. With a lavish lifestyle spending $500 thousand a year, and a life expectancy of 85, he theoretically has enough for 3529.4 lifetimes, or about 23.5 lifetimes per billion. Given that rich assholes tend to also be legendarily cheap, this is likely a conservative estimate for the number of lifetimes. On the average income in the USA of $63,214, that would be 186.1 lifetimes per billion, or at the median income of $44,225 it would be 266 lifetimes per billion. So every billionaire has enough wealth to support hundreds of people for their entire lives, from birth to death. An unfathomable amount of money.

  • Kedly@lemm.ee
    16·
    1 year ago

    With the explosion of tech currently, and where we are with anti aging tech, theres a non zero chance we might not have been born too soon to explore space

      • Kedly@lemm.ee
        3·
        1 year ago

        Originally we wont be, but as it becomes older tech it’ll likely become available to us

        Edit: Lmao, a bunch of you WANT our future to be shit it seems. Whatever floats your goat I guess

        • pythonoob@programming.dev
          4·
          1 year ago

          Nah. That’s the one things that the rich and powerful will absolutely keep for themselves above all else. You can’t have a long lived peasantry. They need to be hard workers that can only barely enjoy what time they have and be grateful for it.

          • Kedly@lemm.ee
            2·
            1 year ago

            Sure, the powerful will want to keep it to themselves, but so did the nobles in the medieval ages. Eventually those with decent intentions luck out into positions of power and are able to spread some of that hoarded power to those who were previously denied. Our power solidification and disparity has acted like waves with high tides and low tides throughout our history. When enough power gets hoarded, those societies stagnate, allowing societies that were behind them and willing to take risks to shoot ahead of them displacing the old powers, and then the cycle repeats

      • Kedly@lemm.ee
        2·
        1 year ago

        I dont have any specific articles to link, but over the last few years I’ve seen a articles here and there about research that’s showing promise in not necessarily extending our lives, but making more of the last few years of them more enjoyable and useful. So thats what influenced the anti aging tech part of my comment, the technology explosion part? The tech I am using right now (My cellphone) is functionally magic to even my 10 year old self. I have adopted family on the opposite end of the planet, that doesnt speak the same language as me, and yet I can effectively communicate with them within seconds using a device connected to nothing

          • Kedly@lemm.ee
            3·
            1 year ago

            They adopted me. I did a volunteer program in a developing country and lived with this family for 3 months. When I had a falling out with my bio family, this family let me know that they consider me their son/brother/family. Also I’m 30

            Edit: Lol how fragile do you have to be for this clarification to be enough to upset you?

        • Guntrigger@feddit.ch
          2·
          1 year ago

          We truly would be in a Star Trek style utopia if the ruling class weren’t stacked with insatiable greed.

          • Kedly@lemm.ee
            3·
            1 year ago

            My hope is we’ll get there eventually, evolution bred some traits into us that arent fully compatible with future utopias, but we’ll fix that over time

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
          1·
          1 year ago

          and our ape brains havent developed considerably in the past few thousand years.

          i’m highly sceptical of any anti ageing technology simply for the fact, that most old people become insane and most middle aged people lack the mental flexibility to deal with the current fast paced world.

          Whats getting 500 years old worth for, if you just move from sausage to vegetable to pile of nuclear waste emitting random signals for 400 of these 500 years?

          • Kedly@lemm.ee
            2·
            1 year ago

            Not everyone goes senile in old age, but yeah, a significant amount of people do. But our tech is slowly helping with that as well

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
    16·
    1 year ago

    Rest easy. We are unlikely to ever explore space, and even if we do, it wouldn’t be anything like what science fiction is portraying.