The map will likely add a Black — and Democratic — member to the delegation.

A federal court has picked Alabama’s new congressional map, which will likely result in an additional Black — and Democratic — member in the delegation.

The new map came after the same panel of federal judges twice found that lines drawn by the GOP-dominated Legislature likely violated the Voting Rights Act by weakening the power of Black voters. The new lines will be used for at least the 2024 elections, the state’s Republican secretary of state said on Thursday, though Alabama Republicans have vowed to fight them for future cycles.

The map gives greater electoral power to Black residents, who make up about one-quarter of the state’s population. And it will very likely mean Republicans lose one seat in their thin majority, imperiling their already tenuous hold on the lower chamber even before battleground districts come into play.

  • Hairyblue@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    45
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    So justice?

    Alabama Republicans are terrible. Stop voting for them.

    I live in Alabama and I am angry about what is happening with Christianity being promoted by our government. Everyone in Alabama is not Christian. We want our government to be secular so it is fair to everyone here.

    Everyone be sure to vote.

    • admiralteal@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Stop voting for them before they make it so no votes matter.

      Because that’s the goal. Turning down the dial on democracy enough that they get to maintain permanent, unquenchable power.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    1 year ago

    Imagine if all the red states where the GQP electorally assaulted the voting districts (and it was almost all of them, thanks ALEC) had to go to the goddamned supreme court to get it resolved which the arrogant GQP then flat-out refused to do! JUST to eke out a sliver of balance back to these extremely unfair maps.

    See more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2021/nov/12/gerrymander-redistricting-map-republicans-democrats-visual

    Cheaters. Crooked as sweet fuck-all, no wonder they love that orange rapist shitbag.

    • admiralteal@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I mean, this literally used to be part of the Voting Rights Act, that states with a history of racist gerrymandering would have to get federal clearance on things like their election maps.

      That’s what Shelby County v. Holder was about. Making it easier for states to engage in racist gerrymandering because the conservative justices like it.

      They claimed the preclearance requirements were unconstitutional because they were based on old data (not a legitimate reason to find it unconstitutional) in spite of the fact that the VERY CASE THEY WERE RULING ON proved the exact relevant need for the law they were striking down.

      • Adalast@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I have always been partial to placing geometric measure restrictions on district mapping. Things like they “must contain no less than 90% of the proportion of the state population and the number of districts” and “the area between any 2 1 mile long edges of the district must be at least 4 Square miles” or “the borders of a district may contain no more than 6 corners, none of which may have angles greater than 100 degrees or less than 80 degrees.”

        Make the Republicans work for it, make it a trip back to math class which we all know they failed.

        • admiralteal@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Geometric rules like that can still cause communities to be unreasonably divided. The decision to avoid “funny” shapes can itself be used as a methodology of cracking and packing. There’s no rule that people spread out evenly and in sensible forms across a state, unfortunately. I remember a model from a textbook I read once where they just had the districts as even slices of a pie chart and showed that merely rotating the starting point could swing an election one way or another, given that communities are not homogeneous.

          To put it another way, sometimes you NEED a funny-shaped district to AVOID disenfranchising a community because that community lives in a funny-shaped neighborhood.

          The relevant video I always evangelize in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-Y7crQo44

          The belief that there is a “fair”, nonpolitical, algorithmic, or similar objectively-correct method to district is a nice one, but it just can’t be true. Redistricting is an inevitably political process. Any way you cut it, you are picking the voters and distorting the final results.

          The best compromise I am aware of, in the US system, is to have a bipartisan or nonpartisan (is there really a difference in a 2-party system?) commission overseeing distracting in an open and transparent process. And even then, all we can do is our best. The hard work of governance. It is not a problem you “solve”, it is one you have to wake up every day and commit to improve steadily.

          • Adalast@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I agree in principle with your assessment. I have a math degree and work with data and optimization, so I understand full well that ANY set of rules can be abused if you understand them well enough and know what “optimized” looks like for your ends. That said, there are definitely O() complexities to optimizing and abusing rule sets. And there is also usually some soft cap on exactly how effective an abuse can become within a rule set. I am not looking to “solve” the problem, but more of trying to lower the soft cap and raise that O from O(1) to at least O(n^2) for how complex it is to abuse the rules.

            At the high level, no party should be easily able to say “I want this neighborhood full of rich white folks, but need to be sure not to included the apartment building full of poor black people that the neighborhood wraps around”. Both are part of the same community, they shop at the same stores, drive on the same roads, their kids likely go to the same schools, and they should have representation that cares about the whole community. So I fail to see how your comment about “funny shaped neighborhoods” does anything but exemplify the mentality that causes the issue in the first place. I will watch that video tonight, perhaps it will enlighten me.

  • swm5126@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    This is good news. Does Alabama have some way to wriggle out of it though? I feel like something similar has happened in other states and then they get to claim it’s too close to the election or something. Or in some cases just don’t do it. But I admittedly don’t know the differences between state and federal cases in those other ones so maybe this is different?

    • frustratedphagocytosis@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      1 year ago

      They already got away with using the map that was unconstitutional because it was too close to the 2022 election! This takes entirely too long to remedy, and there’s no making up for the consequences of gerrymandering since no one goes back to redo elections.

  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    Interesting thing about the “minority majority” part of the Voting Rights Act is that in more purpley states it hurts Democrats by packing a huge number of them in one district, so they win the one district 90%-10% and then lose the surrounding districts 40%-60%.

    But in the super red states, it puts a floor on the number of Democratic districts, as seen in this example.

    • quindraco@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      No, that’s a terrible idea. Gerrymandering will only end when we stop having humans draw inherently biased maps and instead have a computer use an open source algorithm that produces an objectively fair map.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t know of any objectively fair algorithms for drawing districts. Doing it in a way that seems mathematically sensible is very likely to create structural biases the same way the politically neutral rules about House and Senate representation end up structurally favouring Republicans and rural voters.

      • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think it’s possible to make an unbiased algorithm. Algorithms inherently have the bias of their creators. People will find ways to game the algorithm. Computer drawn maps are just opening up another can of worms. The best solution is MMP.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Ok instead all the fourth graders in every school district have to put a pin where there home is on the state map.

        We take the mean location of those sets and extend Voronois around them to the state lines.