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I have been to 100% vegan campuses (as a visiting chef for special events) and let me tell you, the Acadmics may want this but the students DO NOT. I say this with love (I have a bbq joint with many, many vegan options because all are welcome), and the stories I encountered were amazing on the creativity the students would do to get meats. Some students didn’t even realize the campus was vegan (7th day adventist) and met with the chef to complain months after the start of classes not knowing rhe “bacon” wasn’t just “weird tasting” it wasn’t bacon.
Berlin has one or two vegan university canteens I think and they’re not unpopular.
That’s not my point at all. University is for inclusion.
That is why students choose to have their campus vegan because plant based food is the most inclusive.
This statement is categorically incorrect, and it is obvious you have never worked with a diverse student body. I have, with over 7 years experience in my own account and working with other schools. Students are at best contrarian to rules, at worst absolutely obstinate trolls. Let me spell this out: excluding animal protein is not inclusive.
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant when I have already posted plenty of examples where students choose to fight and vote for a plant based cafeteria. Its very simple: everyone can eat plants, nobody needs animal based products. With a limited numbers of menus plant based food is the most inclusive. Special taste preferences can be accommodated at home.
"exclusion of one group is more inclusive " "anecdotal evidence is irrelevant compared to my cherry picked articles "
lol just because you made a word salad doesn’t make your vegan point
People who eat animal products are not excluded if there is none. Do you only ever eat meat and have nothing to eat if its not a dead animal?
How hard is it for you to understand that nobody is excluded for not serving what their little meatflake brain desires?
Some students didn’t even realize the campus was vegan (7th day adventist) and met with the chef to complain months after the start of classes not knowing rhe “bacon” wasn’t just “weird tasting” it wasn’t bacon.
With all due respect, this doesn’t happen in Germany.
Please do elaborate, I really am interested in ewhat the differences are!
The blatant mislabelling doesn’t occur here, I think. A plant-based bacon might be called “vegan bacon”, but not just bacon.
Given the quality of meat at many university canteens, this wouldn’t even be that bad
Yeah that’s how it is in Berlin. They have mediocre food with meat, and mediocre vegan food ^^
Sounds like a good idea but no way students will just adapt. I do enjoy the the feeling of being able to eat anything on the menu for once. Flip the script!
It would have to be a gradual process towards 100% vegan food, and it would have to taste good ^^
Why wouldn’t it taste good?? Weird thing to say. Of course it has to taste good. And it does.
I know that I am vegan but the students might not know that. Also canteens can make horrible food, them having horrible vegan food would be bad.
Many universities had students surveys and made the choice for vegan menus already.
In Cambridge the students voted for completely vegan menus https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/feb/21/cambridge-university-students-vote-for-completely-vegan-menus
In Berlin 34 canteens have only one day a week a option with meat https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/berlins-university-canteens-go-almost-meat-free-as-students-prioritise-climate Many others are already plant based.
It is on a steady rise due to demand of the students https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/22/vegan-college-menus-on-rise-as-students-return-to-universitys
This is the best summary I could come up with:
More than 650 academics have called on British universities to commit to 100% plant-based catering to fight the climate crisis, saying that the institutions have “for centuries, been shining lights of intellectual, moral, and scientific progress”.
Cutting meat consumption in rich nations is vital to tackling the climate crisis, with scientists saying it is the single biggest way for people to reduce their impact on the planet.
The letter, sent to UK university vice-chancellors, catering managers, and student union presidents, said: “We are acutely aware – as you must be too – of the climate and ecological crises; not only this but we are also mindful that animal farming and fishing are leading drivers of them.
Tom Bradshaw, the deputy president of the National Farmers’ Union, said: “It’s right for universities to consider how they can play their part in the climate change challenge, but banning all beef and lamb, regardless of where and how it is produced, is a far too simplistic approach.
Chris Packham said: “The student campaigners of Plant-Based Universities are making incredible changes in their institutions and it’s only right to see hundreds of academics stepping up to support them.”
In 2020, A powerful coalition of the UK’s health professions said the climate crisis could not be solved without action to cut the consumption of high-emission food such as red meat, and that sustainable diets were healthier.
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You have to question these ‘academics’ credentials for saying cutting down on meat consumption is the biggest effect they could have on the planet.
It’s widely known that not having children has a much bigger impact in the climate than cutting down on meat consumption.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0959378008001003?via%3Dihub
You can stop consuming animals. You cannot kill your children.
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