• Zentron@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Im always up for base salary being higher than having more bonuses , makes work lot less stresfull

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    8 days ago

    I quit my last job partially because they kept on about xmas bonuses if the company did well, nah fucko, just pay me better. Don’t offer me shrodingers bonus.

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      8 days ago

      lol “If” that’s worse than the article…Chevy Chase all over this.

      The real gift was the suspense. Schrodingers bonus, alive as a carrot, dead as a payment…Merry Christmas shareholders ho-ho-ho.

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    8 days ago

    If it is a net benefit for employees.
    I can’t see anywhere that says it explicitly or I’m blind

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    So, in Japan, this has a couple of functions, but one major one. By keeping salaries low and offering bonuses, employees can basically be only compensated the bare minimum in the case they (a) are no longer wanted (since firing is very hard here), (b) not performing as well as expected for whatever reason, or © the company did particularly poorly.

    As mentioned, it ties into one of the levers they have to pull for under-performing or bad-fit employees they might want to get rid of in a country where workers have a fair bit of rights on that front.

    On the other, it does make some applications/calculations a little weird as some home loans etc. have repayments that expect those bonus payments (either a higher amount twice-yearly or two extra payments per year). Most companies in Japan pay monthly (and most of those on the 25th or closest preceding business day).

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    8 days ago

    That’s a true team building, stop giving gifts to “anchormen” or “good performers”

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      I work for a company that does profit sharing which is paid out equally to all regular employees, definitely beats circus that happened in places that did arbitrary bonuses. Best place I worked at even though I was a beneficiary of those arbitrary bonuses. You can plan if you know what your profit sharing is based on and people like financial stability.

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        The biggest company I worked for was a great place to be, but they were a US company. I kept going to performance reviews, getting managers give me the “good news, you got the big bonus this year”. My response was consistently “cool, but I’m a base salary guy, I’d rather just keep doing the same job and getting a base salary bump” and they kept being very confused by this.

        Good people, good conditions, I had no complaints, but they just couldn’t parse this. They kept explaining to me how big the bonuses could get, I kept not being motivated at all by this.

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        8 days ago

        What’s disgusting is that bonuses are often based on prior merits and not actual and current ones.

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    Anything to avoid improving the workers’ well-being.

    Edit: they abolished the bonus that is the cultural norm and consistently given out every year, and redistributed it across the workers regular pay. Sony and Bamco now get to advertise a higher salary without actually giving workers any more money.

    Actual “Why are you booing me? I’m right” moment.

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      Damn, this isn’t even a “did you even read the article”, it’s “did you even read the headline?”

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        Did you read it? They abolished a bonus and redistributed it across their regular pay. They now get to advertise a higher salary without actually giving their workers any more money.

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        Not only higher, but also more stable since, unlike bonuses, a salary cannot be cancelled for some reason.

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        They abolished the bonus that is the cultural norm and consistently given out every year, and redistributed it across the workers regular pay. Sony and Bamco now get to advertise a higher salary without actually giving workers any more money.

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    8 days ago

    If corpo decides to do this, it is a net benefit to the company and not the employees. I await my own shit corp implementing this in the future…

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      See other comments here. Long term this is what employees prefer. I work in a company that does a bit of universal bonus and doesn’t skimp on salary increases and that’s much better than me getting 20% yearly salary as an arbitrary bonus because I can’t depend on it to be there the next year.

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        Interesting and with credibility, Misk as I tend to agree with your posts and comments (+20!). I just don’t trust my company even after 20 years and moving into leadership years ago, so anytime I see a corporation making a choice like this I can’t help but be extremely skeptical.

        I would always prefer a base salary increase to my arbitrary bonus, but with the balance between net benefit to employees over the bottom line of the Corp, why would a company do it if it didn’t pay out less in the long run? Or are they counting on merit based salary levels for performant individuals being a better deal over typical company-wide gaming of bonuses being easier to control?

        Reading the article it seems to be related to a shortage of labour in Japan, so not my situation where we have been laying off people for years now. I’d love it if we did this for positive reasons like attracting better talent and increasing average salaries. I guess that’s where my disconnect is.