Tamay Besiroglu from Epoch AI says they were “restricted from disclosing the partnership” until the o3 launch. Their contract “specifically prevented us from disclosing information about the funding source and the fact that OpenAI has data access to much but not all of the dataset.”
If you had no problems with that contract, then I don’t trust your ethical judgment as a scientist.
absolutely; there’s no reason to hide the funding source and OpenAI’s access unless you’re grifting. I feel bad for the mathematicians working on FrontierMath who didn’t know though. imagine wasting valuable time on something like this then finding out it was all just a marketing stunt devised by grifters.
Besiroglu says OpenAI did have access to many of the FrontierMath problems and solutions — but he added “we have a verbal agreement that these materials will not be used in model training.”
ooh, a verbal agreement! incredible! altman & co didn’t even have to do the typical slimy corporate move and pay an intern to barely modify the original materials into the input for the training corpus, since that verbal agreement wasn’t legally binding and behind the scenes OpenAI can just go “oopsy woopsy we swear it won’t happen again” and who’s gonna stop them?
Oops, i did it again, all the way
Besiroglu says OpenAI did have access to many of the FrontierMath problems and solutions — but he added “we have a verbal agreement that these materials will not be used in model training.”
It’s not like the company building a plagiarism tool would use said tool to plagiarize training data. That would be inconceivable.
I fucking knew it!!! I don’t even know why I feel so vindicated for calling out such an obvious fraud tbh. anyone, besides possibly a HN poster, could have seen it coming
