The great irony is they’re finally using the term correctly. To be “woke” means to be aware of, alert to, and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.
That is exactly what they don’t want in schools or shoved down their throats: basic human decency.
PC was used correctly too. Doesn’t word “woke” mean two diff iterent things to users supporting that and opposing? To these opposing it’s more clearly represented as “wokeism”, almost a religion that demands you obey it’s rules or be treated like a religious one heathen (as religions often do). To supporters it’s like you said - closer to “being aware of and concerned about social issues”.
Thats exactly how conservatives think though isn’t it? Its almost always some variation of: I don’t want YOUR group around MY group. They don’t seem to grasp the notion that a diverse group of people with diverse experiences and beliefs can come to the same conclusion about something so they turn it into an “ism”.
Yeah, as I wrote :) Ani-woke has another definition of what “woke” means.
well, they’ve had euphemisms and dog whistles since forever, and the people who were direct with their bigotry are still direct with it. this could even be seen as a step back from outright bigotry, implying that some of these people are less comfortable expressing direct transphobia / racism / sexism with the understanding that they are in fact losing power
Why are you being downvoted?
because being against equal rights for people especially women’s and LGBT rights is still extremely bigoted, especially if it’s because you’re upset at the loss of power over those groups, whether or not they see themselves as bigots
Yeah, there’s nothing said about being against in the comment you’re replying to. Just that changing the term to woke is not necessarily bad. Where did you take that from?
I think what Noodle was trying to say is that now they have a blanket term to hide behind instead of having to identify exactly why they are bigots.
I don’t mind, I understand I’m going against the expected response
This is true except for the part where anyone smiles naively, as though the dog whistle isn’t delivered in the most transparent manner imaginable
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Nope. Right-wing ideology exists for one reason and one reason only - to protect power and privilege. We can’t leave reactionary politics behind because the people that benefit from it and are protected by it literally owns everything - including the violent goon squads.
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Just because you look at a black and white map… Or red and blue… it doesn’t tell the whole story. Even in the strongest blue states there is still a significant portion of red voters, and vice versa. If you divide the country up you are dooming countless people to living in a less democratic society. Historically this has happened before, typically due to religion, and as far as I can tell, has never helped. It had bread extremism and regional instability which drags down everyone around you.
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For fuck’s sake, can this debate die already? It’s one those made up words that no-one agrees on the meaning of, so people with the exact same views about the real world will fight to the death over it, because they’re using completely different definitions of the word.
It used to just mean “progressive” with a positive connotation, then it got oversaturated and some progressives started using it to describe the kinds of people who fake having progressive ideals just to make themselves look good or sell shit. Then conservatives started using it to describe all progressives again, but this time with a negative connotation. Then some of those conservatives started using it to describe literally anything they don’t like.
The problem is that the meaning’s changed so fast that whatever meaning you’re using, chances are there’s someone around you who defines it differently, leading to a lot of pointless conflict that could be resolved if we just all agreed on a meaning, or stopped saying the fucking word.
ok but when someone says “Hollywood is too woke these days” or “Stop pushing your woke agenda on my children!” it’s not exactly a mystery as to what they really mean.
Dude you’re being really woke right now.
This is literally the history of the word, I’m not sure what’s all the downvotes are about…
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This nails it.
Thank you for posting. This cuts right to the heart of the issue.
