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Anyone have some kind of even handed analysis on hand that explains whether or not all this panic for decades about birth/fertility rates has legs? I only ever give it a passing glance and i accidentally clicked a video the other day and it was some rightwing guy talking about some retvrn shit
I asked bc like the article states: the real problem is the price of housing. It seems to me that falling birth rates are a symptom of capitalism’s decline. However, many article writers seem to dance around that
Highly developed capitalist countries tend to have low birth rates because people are alienated and atomized and having children is an untenable burden for workers who are already working themselves to exhaustion and barely getting by.
I think some people underestimate how obscenely expensive raising a baby is, borderline impossible without a strong support system
agree and i appreciate it, I think I was just getting too internet brained and thinking how often the issue is presented disingenuously in a vacuum or tied to a loss of ‘cultural values’ or w/e
Yes of course it is an issue. When TFR reaches 1 for example, the next generation becomes half the size as the last one. You can’t have a healthy economy with that. There’s also every indication that more and more countries are reaching low fertility levels, and there’s no precedent that it will reverse. Social democratic childcare policies haven’t succeeded. Personally I think only socialism can achieve sustainable population levels now.
I think it’s supremacists projecting their WHITE REPLACEMENT fears onto others
I disagree for the most part.
I been reading these guys for a bit and they seem to be hostile toward austerity and NIMBYism so far
To be honest, I can’t see anybody who isn’t way too worried about phenotypes and skull shapes genuinely caring about birthrates, regardless of what else they write.
Wait what?
I read nothing in this site talking about that right wing nonsense
Hell, they attack the Tories for cutting spending
I’m saying that anybody who thinks “declining birth rates” merits writing articles or making social media posts, they’re likely also racists.
There are pretty straightforward, non-racist, economic reasons you be concerned about it. It’s an issue China is grappling with very directly, and not because they’re neo-Nazis.
Aren’t they increasing automation in response? China also allowed provinces with larger minority populations to have more children than predominantly Han provinces, didn’t they? I think they get a pass.
Maybe? I haven’t seen anything to say that he is racist, or even share any sympathy for traditional right wing policy
I don’t know
All I known are examples of Japan’s economic stagnation and the rise as France as the economic engine of Western Europe (highest TFR)
Your wealth or lack there of has no meaning unless there’s people to perpetrate the capitalist cycle. Less people means less people without established capital. If your new people amount is lower than the dying out people amount you get empty housing which you therefore cannot pretend to have more value than it does. Furthermore, aging capitalists need a work force to take care of them. Humans live longer and longer, especially the rich. Without surplus of workforce it’s hard to staff these positions. And so on and so on.
Makes sense, a lot of what’s written by the authors is hostility against austerity and they promote YIMBISM and more social spending
This should be a non-issue, or even an opportunity, but it’s a complete crisis for capitalism. As a society we need rapidly decrease the carbon emissions from our buildings. This means electrification of utilities, but more importantly it means reducing the heating/cooling load of buildings. This would require a massive building campaign of new homes, depressing the price of existing homes across the board. Then once population demographics have shifted enough to begin depressing the price of homes on their own, begin systematically destroying the older housing stock.
