• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    I’ve said it before, they should use Trump’s time to explain why his previous answers to the same questions were lies.

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    The number one question for her to get right:

    Voter: “Why does the economy suck so bad from my perspective?”

    Standard GOP Answer: “Brown people”

    Standard Dem Answer: “As a whole, the economy has never been stronger”

    Winning Dem Answer: “Rich people”

    I haven’t seen a Dem candidate other than Bernie answer this correctly in my entire life.

    It’s not just a failure of policy and campaigning, it’s also a denial of basic reality which has allowed fascists to come in and offer an alternative toxic explanation.

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      She’ll enable it appropriately 99% less than the ONLY OTHER OPTION, who seeks to ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE genocide.

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        I want her to win bruh. And this is the stick in her spokes. There is no daylight between her and Biden, and no meaningful daylight between her and Trump.

        She needs to win. She’s losing on this issue with the key demographics she needs to get the 1-3% she needs to win the swing states. Throw away the moral wrong if supporting a genocide. Quite literally, it’s just a strategically bad decision to not distance herself from Israel and this genocide.

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          Wtf are you talking about?

          One is a literal convicted criminal who tried to start a civil war who has modernised bigotry and racism. Who gives away highly classified information and tells people that migrants are eating their pets

          The other is someone who actually follows and fully understands the law

          Do you really believe in a international Court of law of any type they can convict Biden or kamala of genocide?

          I don’t. Because you’re blowing their involvement way out of proportion

          But Trump already lost court cases for being a rapist at a minimum, and he is a convicted tax cheat

          He’s literally going to hurricane affected areas and lying to people and telling them Biden is leaving them to suffer. And, the lies are so bad that even disaster response are having to waste time doing press conferences EXPLICITLY to rebuke those lies as they cause harm.

          He does so much incredibly bad shit that people forget all the bad shit he does. The only way you couldn’t see a difference would be if your standards are super low. Sorry, there is NO comparison. Literally, the only real argument I’ve seen against Kamala is Israel (and they’re also an ally, so it might not be as easy as people think). With Trump, he still won’t change that (but claims he’ll create world peace), and he’ll fuck American’s to death (and many of us international people).

          Internationally, it’s not even a debate between the two. He’s basically fucking up international relationships with lots of countries including Australia, and humbly bragging about being friends with dictators.

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          Nobody gives a fuck about the Palestinians who isn’t in a hardcore blue state.

          Any remotely swing states could potentially swing right because they don’t want to see us being soft on potential Muslim terrists.

          Trump could GAIN points by saying his first day in office he’d bomb Gaza to glass.

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                Yeah bud… MANY people give a shit about the issue. And while the gEnOciDE crowd are obnoxious… that doesn’t mean the underlying point isn’t relevant.

                Chill.

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                  I’m sure it’s relevant.

                  But holy shit they’re getting as obnoxious as the Trumpers at this point, and that must take dire dedication.

                  People should chill the fuck out, and they are absolutely harshing everyone’s mellow.

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          Everywhere I look… She’s winning, despite your accusations of gEnOciDe sUpPorT. Keep in mind that just becasue you create a reality that drives whatever nonsense you’re trying to say, that doesn’t mean everyone else has to adhere to it.

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            Code share so you can replicate the analysis yourself, https://codeshare.io/zl96xj. This is what I form my opinion: real actual data pulled as of about 30s ago when I ran the script.

            Arizona. Increasing poll numbers up to the 10th of Sept. Declining polling since.

            Florida, same story:

            GA, same story:

            MI, same story:

            NV, same story:

            Reality. Harris’s poll numbers were going up for a while. They aren’t any more. They are declining.

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              Love how the Dems haven’t learned a single fucking thing from Hillary, and are already attacking statistical analysis showing that once again this will be an election won by the tiniest of margins.

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                I love how leftists produce their own data to support bullshit that they then feed one another on the daily here.

                This “statistical analysis” is home-grown bullshit that’s been dismissed time and again. But you do you bud. In a month, we won’t have to hear from ant if you again. Because if Harris wins, you will all pile on the celebrations and pretend you had nothing to do with it, like you did in 2020-

                and if she loses, you’ll disappear into a cloud of vapor and resurface as victims of your own ignorance, lie you did in 2016.

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              Aaaaand… where are you pulling this from exactly? OHHHH! Right it’s your own data. Amazing how it supports your argument.

              You’ll have to excuse me while I laugh a bit before I summarily dismiss your nonsense.

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                These are from Nate Slivers data stores that I have access to. These are not his models, these are the raw poll results.

                You’ll have to excuse me while I laugh a bit before I summarily dismiss your nonsense.

                Thats because you don’t live in reality.

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                  Riiiiight. If you say so. It stil doesn’t change the fact that you’re using your own scripts to support points that disagree with pretty much everyone else.

                  Look man. I’ve been around a while. I see things. You’ve been called out over this by many- MANY people with FAR more patience than I have, so if you want to know my take on it-

                  Just reference EVERONE that has ever disagreed with your rhetoric. Maybe… I don’t know-

                  Write a script for it.

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      If I have to choose between the welfare of my country and democracy and the welfare of the Palestinians… That’s not a complex equation for me.

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      Let’s ask you about your genocide. Lots of child and slave Labor probably producing the stuff you’re buying.

      Foxconn had lots of suicides. Etc. What are you doing about that?

      Israel at least in an Ally, so there might be some debate there (I don’t think they’re right, but at least there is some doubt in my mind that I don’t know the full situation, as it is highly politicised). I do know that Trump raped women though and lies