A federal judge has blocked the state of Hawaii from enforcing a recently enacted ban on firearms on its prized beaches and in other areas including banks, bars and parks, citing last year’s landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling expanding gun rights.

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    How big of a coward do you have to be to feel the need to bring a gun to the beach?

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      I think I know why… They’re criminals.

      Pretty much only criminals have people trying to kill them everyday.

      Maybe America just has a lot of criminals Maybe so many that it’s starting to show in our politics and democracy.

      I wish this post wasn’t so believable. …it was supposed to be sarcasm.

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      Have you met a conservative man lately? They’re scared of everything. Especially their own feelings

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    Can I carry one into the court where the justices meet? Or is safety just something the “little people” need to work about?

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    What happened to respecting states rights? So sick of the judicial branch in the US, the most untethered and corrupt branch of them all. Which is saying a lot considering the state of the legislative branch.

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      Republicans only care about state’s rights when they can use state law to push one of their terrible policies at state level because they can’t force it nationally.

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      Republicans want all power consolidated at the level they can most effectively control. They were only ever about “states’ rights” because they typically are better at capturing state governments than national institutions.

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      Republicans have no political platform, but they do have a judicial agenda.

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    Why do they defend so hard for like the one weird out of 1000 who openly waves a gun around that makes everyone extremely uncomfortable. People around open carriers don’t think “wow freedom!”, they get super fucking uncomfortable.

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    Damn, the US annexation of Hawai’i continues to hurt their nation :-(

    I hope one day they can win their freedom back.

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    “Who needs guns on the beach”

    I’m trans. Id sooner never go. But if I had to, with the way things are going, you bet your ass I am afraid and would rather be armed

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      As a trans person, would you rather go to a beach where nobody is armed, or to a beach where everybody might be armed?

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        I’m not trans, but I’d rather go where everyone might be armed. Just because everyone is supposed to not bring a gun somewhere doesn’t mean there won’t be someone that does- how many shootings in the US happen in “gun free zones”?

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          Only in the US. When I go to the beach in my country, Australia, I’d never even consider the possibility of a gunman.

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          I’ll foolishly assume this is a comment posted by a human in good faith and not a troll or a bot.

          Does fog of war mean anything to you? Go to a crowded place where everyone is armed. Person 1 is a baddie and kills person 2. Person 3 is a Good Guy and shoots person 1. People 4, 5, and 6 are also Good Guys With Guns and didn’t directly observe the original altercation, they only observed Person 3 shooting Person 1, and assume Person 3 shot Person 2 as well. People 4, 5, and 6, open fire on Person 3. They are bad shots though and the adrenaline dump makes them miss, so People 7, 8, and 9 get shot in the crossfire. At this point it is total chaos, everyone is either shooting at everyone else (fight), running in panic (flight), getting shot in the crossfire (freeze), or just shrieking their head off at the carnage in front of them (freak). Then the police arrive and shoot the survivors.

          Congratufuckinglations, we now have a bunch of bodies and dozens of traumatized people because you morons couldn’t leave your fucking guns at home and enjoy the goddamn beach.

          I hate this country so much sometimes.

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        just don’t go anywhere you’re likely to be shot. Like school, work, the grocery store, church, urban areas, suburban areas, rural areas, bars, restaurants, nightclubs, daycare centers…

        Without even addressing the moral panic and domestic terrorism currently being whipped up against trans people the fact is that “just don’t go places where people are allowed to carry” is a bad solution even for the average person.

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    If they can’t ban guns, they should ban conservatives instead. Problem solved.

    Friendly Reminder: It is perfectly legal to discriminate based on political affiliation. Do your part to help fight conservatism by excluding conservatives in your daily life. It is not appropriate to conduct business or keep relationships with such people.

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    Oh yeah, well what about MY freedom to go to a beach and not be worried about getting fucking SHOT? Why do THEY get all these rights and freedoms while WE have to suffer the consequences? I don’t fucking get it. What about our rights to not get shot?

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      Yep I hope to see more gun rights precedents set by this SC. It’s the one thing that’s good about that court now

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      You should need a reason to bring a gun to a beach. You are likely not carrying it unless you are clothed and never go into the water. Do you really think people are going to stay at the beach wearing a holster the whole time?

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              You don’t see how carrying or not carrying matters? So you can just leave a gun anywhere you like in a public space? Like where a kid or a crazy person could just pick it up if they saw it? And even if that’s legal, you think that should be legal?

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                Gonna go out on a limb and guess that letting a random kid get a hold of your weapon is illegal, and would land you in quite a bit of trouble.

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      Hang on… There is unlicensed carry that might be banned specifically on beaches? Isn’t unlicensed carry in general like… Illegal or something?

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    Why the fuck does anyone need a gun on the beach? I can’t think of one justifiable argument for needing one there.