• Red Army Dog Cooper@lemmy.ml
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    I thought we had all agreed that we punch nazis? LIke was this not the agreed apon reaction. If you had something more dangerous than a fist I would say you could use that… but this feels overly cowardly

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      If you had something more dangerous than a fist I would say you could use that… but this feels overly cowardly

      Na dawg. This is why I carry. I have a bad back so I’m not fucking around like that.

      I need the Nazi to make the first move anyway.

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        It has been a while, but it used to happen around once a week a back in the day. They used to show up to music venues they weren’t wanted at, and if made to leave, would start fights. If they were returning from a place they got the boot from, they would just poor in and start fighting. If it wasn’t a place they could just enter, they would congregate outside.

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        I have indeed punched nazis.

        I was involved in martial arts for nearly two decades, I attended many tournaments in that time. I don’t make any claims of being an amazing fighter but I was able to hold my own and I can really take a hit.

        There is a huge spectrum of tournaments out there. Some of these venues were far less strict than others, and basically let in anyone who was good at faking being from an actual karate school, because some hosts just cared about collecting entry fees. This was a long ass time ago, I have no idea if it’s still like this now.

        So there were almost inevitably a scattering of delusional psychopaths who just wanted to fight, from gang-members to college kids who watched Bruce Lee films so many times they thought they knew how to fight. And of course a few tattoo-plastered biker types who were able to set aside their ego enough to actually put on a gi and follow tournament etiquette. (Love those black belts that are so stiff you can tell they’ve never been worn before that day.)

        So it’s easy enough to see things like hate symbols tattooed on some people’s chests or arms. I am proud to say that I have gone against some of these chucklefucks and hit them hard enough that they fell down and had a hard time getting back up. One just left after the first hard kick to the nuts. Fortunately (and unfortunately) the same kinds of tournaments that let just anyone in also seemed really lax about enforcing “light contact” rules and people were routinely just smashing each other as hard as possible.

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    Gotcha. Summary:

    Group name: Some shit that 12-year-olds would be embarrassed to use as a gang name, but surprise, the guy who came up with this shit was 60+ or something
    Ideology: The same ol’ shit, you’ve heard it all before
    Identifiers: Well, this kind of shit, they kind of stick out from the crowd
    What to do: The usual

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    This is good advice on it’s face, but what if you’re living in a country full of Nazis?

    Like, let’s say - hypothetically - the cops are Nazis. And all your mass media is full of Nazi agitprop. And friends and family are periodically repeating Nazis talking points. And you are feeling increasingly isolated by the sheer madness of the outside world.

    Hypothetically, of course.

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      You know what’s crazy? People who are Nazis would say exactly this about the “Woke” Society. They see no difference in accepting Trans people and killing minorities. Just take a sharp look at the conservative narrative.

      “Green Fascist’s with woke ideology” to what about their way of live.

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        People who are Nazis would say exactly this about the “Woke” Society.

        It reminds me of the left/right split during the Iranian Revolution. Folks love to post pictures of “Before 1979” with the wealthy kids of the industrial elites dressed like EU/US fashionistas. Iranian progressives saw this as a privilege of the elites that shouldn’t be exclusive to the upper end of society. Iranian conservatives saw it as a symptom of elitism that shouldn’t be permitted at any tier of society.

        After the revolution, conservative Iranians (very briefly) aligned with conservative Americans, as the Ayatollah and the Reagan/Thatcher governments aligned on this idea of regressive religious anti-Communism. But then Iran didn’t open itself back up as a western gas station, so the American white supremacists and the Iranian Islamic supremacists fell back into conflict again.

        Then it was just two ultra-orthodox conservative groups screaming “Woke Decadent Radicals!” at one another, while everyone around them were ground to paste by the slew of wars to follow.

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          Awesome explanation. The similarities are striking. I don’t understand why people have the tendency to interfere with others lives. Conservatives have a fetish for this.

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            I don’t understand why people have the tendency to interfere with others lives

            Codifying cultural norms into law is a normal part of politics. The big question is what you want to normalize.

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          You mean the most widespread language on earth?

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          But you always have the option to learn another language. It just takes some effort. It is easier to do than it ever has been before in history.

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            Finding an employer to sponsor you in most countries is exceedingly difficult for most Americans. We can’t just move, unfortunately. There are strict immigration laws in most countries.

            There were entire subreddits dedicated to this topic in the before-days. We need a Lemmy community for this complex topic.

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          Come to New Zealand.

          We still have Nazis but they spend all their energy on hating the Māori population.

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      Complain about it online and hope someone else does something about it, as far as I can tell.

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    That last line needs to be in all caps at the top. Never call the cops on Nazis, it’ll just mean more Nazis putting the boot in.

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      This is like basic common sense that is drilled into you from a young age if you’re not white.

      Got a problem and you call the cops? Now you’ve got two problems.

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        I’m white and even as a kid I felt unsafe around cops. As early as maybe 13 I’d reached this conclusion on my own.

        I’m not sure what took everyone else the extra few decades.

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          They teach kids in school that cops are your friends, which you would think is some kind of state sanctioned indoctrination program, but it’s actually just naiveté on the part of the educators. If you meet a cop, does it feel like they’re your friend, or does it feel like someone puffing up their chest to try and intimidate you even when you’ve done nothing wrong?

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    This is so goddamn exhausting.

    Thirty years ago I was reading poorly photostatted (sic) fliers at the local record shop explaining the difference between Nazis with red shoelaces and Nazis with yellow shoelaces. It was exhausting then, too. They’re all basic bitch Nazis. Treat them the same way you would treat a potentially harmful arthropod, like a scorpion. You don’t have to be a fucking entomologist to understand this shit.

    Shun the Nazi. Leave it alone. Don’t ask for help from Nazis.

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    Is it still acceptable to wear a S.H.A.R.P. patch? Don’t they have a Spartan helmet on it?

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    Pussy as Nazis hiding their faces. Be a man, show your face, so someone can throw a brick at it.