• Soup@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    For a while I thought being clear about “hey I don’t think you’re doing this on purpose” was gunna be helpful but it turns out that people will still take everything as a personal attack anyway!

    I think they hear that stuff and their PTSD from HR speak and people not saying what they fuckin’ mean kicks in. “Of course this is informal (and also I’ll bring it up to deny you a raise)” or whatever else to that effect in their lives.

    And sometimes we do fuck it up and think we’re being nice and honest but could probably dial it back a little.

    • naeap@sopuli.xyz
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      3 months ago

      By now I think, that many people are stuck in emotional kindergarten level and it’s only about who is to blame

      If I talk for example about climate change, everybody reacts with “but look at China/Africa/India!! We need to buy new cars while they are driving all the old stuff. We’re getting cheated [somehow by having cleaner air?] and they are all at fault!”
      Like, I don’t really think that you are responsibly alone for that stuff and I don’t really care who is as fault, but we need to solve a problem that affects all of us.
      Ok, of you’re the CEO of Exxon you’re probably to blame. But come on, I wanna talk about solutions and not play a blame game

      (“You” obviously doesn’t mean you, but my hypothetical talk partner)

  • BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Fuckk I’m not autistic to my knowledge but I feel this so much in online interactions especially and it’s so confusing. I’m usually trying to contribute information or just have a conversation and people often think I’m trying to argue (I guess because presenting new information automatically = dunking or being argumentative somehow) and I’ve ended up just not wanting to interact much or I preemptively try to phrase things as questions (like “isn’t x” or “I thought y”) and it’s so exhausting trying to do that all the time and it makes me want to crawl in a hole and not interact with anybody.

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      The other guy phrased it humorously, but yeah, that’s Reddit culture. Particularly, lemmy.world took in lots of people from there and unfortunately, they never recovered. I’ve considered just blocking that whole instance for that reason.

      • maryXann@lemmy.autism.place
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        3 months ago

        Reddit wasn’t even always like that: I’d say it progressively went downhill during the last decade. Design choices were progressively made to tailor the most toxic users.