• oxjox@lemmy.ml
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    I don’t have any doubts. I have grave concerns that anyone, literally anyone, would argue that DT is a better option than Biden in any regard. That’s not to say I’m happy to have an old white dude as the nominee but he’s been exceptionally productive and has near infinite less baggage than the alternative.

    I’ve yet to be presented with a legit legal way Biden could drop out and allow voters to choose another candidate. Lots of opinions that he should do it but no experts weighing in on how. I could have missed a lot of coverage so I ask people to respectfully share this policy with me.

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      Supreme Court 2017, after it was established in court that the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie, made a ruling established that the DNC is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they want to decide on a nominee at any point, regardless of whatever the delegates are.

      There are no legal barriers to replacing Biden. In fact, his replacement can basically double dip with donors.

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        This. The Democratic party could run a nonbinding online caucus if they felt like.

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        I guess I need to learn more about the relationship between the party committees, state’s laws for getting someone on the ballot, primary elections, the ballot box, and the electoral college. Why have a primary election in each state if the party can just put whomever they want on the general election ballot? Could the DNC literally just do a switcheroo and put Hilary (for example) on the ballot in November?

        Edit: Found this which answered most of my questions.

        the choice of a nominee is party business — not state law, not federal law, and not constitutional law.

        https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/qa-how-biden-can-be-replaced-as-the-democratic-nominee/

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          I had a whole exchange yesterday with folks about it, and they + the research I did along the way really made me question of it was as impossible as it’s being made out to be.

          Link to thread

          My takeaways from that whole thread are basically that the only states it may prove legally problematic in (at this point, today), are Georgia and Nevada.
          (Georgia because while he can still drop, the deadline to add candidates has passed. And Nevada because other sources say it will be a problem, but I can’t figure out the actual rules!)

          But, for Biden to drop, he has to be willing to drop. And he has to do it before he’s declared the nominee by the Democratic Party. And (regardless of their merit) the lawsuits and any injunctions that happen due to those lawsuits must be cleared before the states run out of time to print ballots. Time is rapidly ticking away for that option, if it’s even possible.

          As far as both actual candidates go, they’re both different flavors of Zaphod Beeblebrox.
          They could just roofie me for 4 years and assign me to the party that wins, and it’ll be the same outcome. The real leadership comes from their donors, the cabinet (and their donors), the political party (and their donors), and their advisors (and the donors for the think tanks they represent).
          Shit, maybe that’s why the parties keep running neurologically impaired old men.

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          It’s all very simple. At the end of the convention we have a nominee and there name goes on the state ballots.

          And yes. They could do a Hillary switcheroo.

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    The country is about to go down the shitter because democracy means picking between two geriatric boomers.

    Wonderful! Just wonderful. Meanwhile – no fix for, housing, education, income inequality, stock market run amok, global warming, transportation…

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    5:30pm East

    Possible to stream from the White House’s website or to stream from a bunch media YouTube channels (APNews will have it).

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    If you’re not asking why Trump isn’t talking about the real issues and instead ranting and raving like he’s at a fucking rally during a DEBATE then you’re the problem.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    President Joe Biden will hold a news conference Thursday, the key event in a monumental week during which the Democratic incumbent is fending off calls for him to step aside as the party’s presumptive nominee following a shaky debate performance.

    It’s just the type of event that many political watchers have said Biden needs to pull off successfully to turn back demands — including from within his own party — that he withdraw from his reelection battle against presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump.

    Here are the details on what White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has referenced as Biden’s “big boy” news conference:

    Biden will be speaking from the Walter E. Washington Convention Center, a short distance from the White House, where many events of the ongoing NATO summit are being held.

    Aside from some apparent exceptions — like incidents in which two Black radio hosts said Biden’s campaign sent them planned questions ahead of time — it’s not standard practice for the president to know precisely what will come up during interviews or news conferences.

    His aides prepare him for a host of possibilities based off the headlines of the day, so they’re prepping him for the likelihood that journalists will want to ask about his fitness for office, the NATO summit or other topics.


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    If you’re not asking why Trump isn’t talking about the real issues and instead ranting and raving like he’s at a fucking rally during a DEBATE then you’re the problem.