• litchralee@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    5 months ago

    Sources: Aviation Stack Exchange

    If a citation is going to point to any of the Stack Exchange Q&A pages, it is extremely important to specifically cite the exact post or answer, since – not dissimilar to Wikipedia – the quality, consistency, and biases of Stack Exchange answers is paramount for evaluating the information presented, especially factual data to be fed into an infographic.

    I personally am intrigued at these $800 economy, ten-hour flights, as well as a total omission of freight cargo in the underbelly. As presented, this flight has 180 passengers and runs for ten hours. This would suggest it’s not a common narrow-body, either the Boeing 737 or an Airbus A320, as even their largest available configurations can’t fit 180 people in a 2 class setup, let alone a 3 class setup. It could possibly be the Airbus A321, though.

    My point is that if it’s a widebody aircraft or the A321, not hauling cargo would be some staggering malfeasance for a commercial revenue airliner. But I can’t follow-up on any of these queries, since the sources aren’t properly cited.

    • howrar@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Maybe it accounts for no-shows. I’ve heard that those make up a good chunk of their income.

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    5 months ago

    This style of chart is fucking awful. Can it obfuscate information in any worse way?

    • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      5 months ago

      I find this easy to read. There are quite a few info graphics where that is not the case though. I think it’s how your brain is wired.

    • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      5 months ago

      It’s basically two adjacent pie charts. I don’t hate these, but I agree they are a bit confusing because it implies a relationship between sections in the left and right that are across from each other. They’re useful to get a sense of proportion in each categorization.

      • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 months ago

        I think the intent of the big green bar in the middle is to signify that all the revenue streams combine to form this single total revenue, then the various cost centers chip away at it until you get the singular green revenue total in the bottom left.

        I guess it’s how our brains are wired like another poster said, because I definitely didn’t pick up an implied relationship between the revenue and costs here.

    • haulyard@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      For reference, check out this recent clip going into detail about how some airlines aren’t making any profit and are being floated by agreements with credit card companies.

  • itsathursday@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    5 months ago

    This doesn’t add up when you realise economy is treated like shit and first class gets the royal treatment. The seats aren’t worth it, what’s the reason for keeping them and why hasn’t shrinkflation hit this market?

    • EldritchFeminity
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      5 months ago

      Because 2 of those seats bring in more revenue than 6 of the economy seats, but you’d never fill a plane of only first-class seats at that price point and the benefits compared to the cheaper seats make them more desirable for those who can afford them.

      As for shrinkflation, maybe it started earlier with airlines when they started nickel-and-diming people for everything and cutting out in-flight meals and the like. It’s crazy to see how the luggage fees and such effectively increased their gross profits by about 33%.

  • nymwit@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    Were they gifted this plane making the flight or am I just not understanding where price of the plane itself is being paid. Is that the depreciation bit?

    • Quik@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Most “modern” airlines don’t even own the airplanes themselves, but lease them. Even if not, calculating cost for vehicles you use over longer time as a business is most often done with a deprecation factor. Here both are combined as “Lease & Deprecation”