• Frog@lemmy.ca
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      Israel has a huge intelliegence network that the US help them build by giving them billions of dollars.

      The US relations with that area is already really poor. Pulling support of Israel will bring the US back decades of relationship building, billions of dollars invested, and losing the location. The location is important because Israel is in the center, near water, and isn’t an island.

      Morally, being allies with Israel is not good, logically it makes sense.

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          The president role is 7 years. Knesset seat is 4 years. Would you give up decades of relationship building for one presidential term?

          Also how often would you switch allies if they commit genocide defined by the Genocide Convention?

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            Over an active genocide? I would immediately end a friendship with a country and as many times as it takes to not be responsible for enabling a genocide. Allies don’t let allies commit genocide, everyone knows that. Besides it takes more than a president to do a genocide.

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              How much time needs to pass before a genocide is no longer an “active genocide”?

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                I knew this would come up, which is why i specified this. Might as well as cut the head off the “every country has committed genocide at some point” argument. Not every country is actively committing genocide, Israel is. America is their chef supplier of power. America is actively Shielding them from the consequences of committing genocide.

                So we should stop backing a country that is actively committing genocide full stop. No money, no weapons, no blocking sanctions, no threatening countries and organizations trying to help the victims. This is the literal bare minimum, as we should be sanctioning them, we should be guaranteeing humanitarian aid to Palestinians.

                When is it not an active genocide? When the genocide stops.

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                  Let’s say we stopped being allies with them and stopped funding. So if they stop tomorrow, then the US should have them as allies again?

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      After WW2 everyone felt really bad. And it was a west-leaning country in a region full of oil and big trade routes.

      Most of the calculus has slowly changed over the years. The Congressionally-passed treaties all still remain though.

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        And it was a west-leaning country in a region full of oil and big trade routes.

        Other way around - their loyalties weren’t firmly lodged with either of the superpowers, so the US in the 70s and 80s put a lot of time and effort into wooing them.

        Their loyalties still aren’t lodged with anyone, but we keep sucking them off anyway.

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      And why do we think they need more weapons to “defend” themselves if they’re threatening to obliterate multiple other countries?

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    If you take a country “back to the stone age” it absolutely requires attacks on civilian infrastructure.

    So any country that respects international law and human life could not in good conscience give them weapons or support to do this.

    Gosh I wonder what Biden will do…

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    At this point I don’t know which country is more ridiculous, Israel or North Korea. They’re basically the same, a tiny pariah state barking loud at anyone that looks at them while getting support from a rich neighbor.

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      They’re the same country but ones wrapepd in religous propaganda and backed but the US and the others wrapped in Leftist propaganda and tolerated by the Chinese.

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    The US has couped and attempted coups of better nations for worse reasons and yet they give this genocidal maniac all the leeway and weapons he could ask for. This is who the US is. There’s simply no money to be made saving victims of genocide so they will go unsaved.

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    This quote could’ve been passed as from Putin and would be believable. Astonishing that people still don’t notice the parallels.

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    Can you fucking not, Israel? I was just there and lebanon is having enough trouble as is (as usual).

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      One of these days, they’re going to reveal their “Final Solution” when it comes to Muslims. It’s obvious this is an extermination campaign.