According to the latest reports, Windows 11 has made an independent choice by automatically turning on OneDrive folder backup for Desktop, Pictures, Documents, Music, and Video folders without your permission. This signifies that, whether you approve or not, everything is becoming coordinated with the cloud.

This action from Microsoft fits into a larger pattern where big tech companies cleverly (or not so cleverly) promote their services and subscriptions to users. It isn’t only about Microsoft; there have been instances of Google doing something similar with Google Photos and its storage plans.

Keep an eye on your settings, particularly when you have just finished setting up a new device or updating your operating system. Companies such as Microsoft constantly seek methods to link users with their environments—sometimes without permission.

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      Well you see, they put it in page 69 of their EULA that got updated last week that they emailed directly to your spam folder. Since you didn’t opt out of that clause my sending a registered letter to their offices in Uganda, Japan, Washington, and Ukraine, it is considered that you agreed to the EULA.

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      Your honour, I asked her if she wanted to have it and she said no. I wasn’t sure what that meant so I asked again. And to make things clearer I told her that “yes” and “maybe later” where the only options. She still didn’t say yes, but after some time I decided that “later” had come. So I Azure you, I did nothing wrong.

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      Louis Rossman is a far right extremist who promotes unfounded conspiracy theories against technical corporations.

      I’m wondering how many people won’t know if that’s serious or not.

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        Yes, he does talk a lot about “what ifs” but a lot of his “conspiracy theories” are in the realm of reality. If you do your own research, I think you’ll see that most companies are getting shittier as time goes on.

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    Every new “feature” I hear about in Windows Privacy Invasion Goes to 11, the happier I am that I switched to Linux. It’s been mostly smooth and games have just worked. Though I know that much of that is because of Proton.

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      Funnily, or sadly enough, OneDrive integration is one of the things I miss from my windows days. It’s just extremely convenient how it’s integrated into explorer and office. And how well the smart/ on-demand sync works. I can’t find a setup to replicate this on Linux.

      That being said I don’t intend to go back and this move is insane.

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        If you are willing to self-host, I’ve found Nextcloud integrates well in Linux. I had been using it before I made the switch and it worked out just fine afterwards. I originally set it up to have a cloud-sync option for my phone, which didn’t mean passing everything through Google first. But, it also proved to be a handy way to sync files on my desktop as well.
        It just shows up as another folder on my system and Libre Office is happy to work on files from there (with some permissions fiddling due to flatpak).

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          Yes, but I can’t get the virtual file system/on-demand sync to work properly. It turn off every time I reboot. I gave up after a while since it’s experimental for now anyway.

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            That’s interesting. I’ve not had that sort of issue. On my phone (Android), my son’s laptop (Windows) and my desktop (Arch Linux) the NextCloud clients all sync perfectly and run at start up. Granted, knowing that the Linux landscape is fractured, I wouldn’t be overly surprised if the client had issues on some flavors of Linux.

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                My apologies, I was not familiar with the difference. I’m going to have to test this when I am back at my system. Looking at the docs, it does seem to be experimental in Linux. But it seems odd that it would turn off automagically.

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            I use Nexcloud-client and so far, it syncred the ~/nextcloud folder pretty good with my Linux devices so far, but I do not jave huge files in it either. Mostly my keepass file.

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        I’m in a similar situation - I’m a (retired) Unix admin and have Linux servers at home but I’m still on windows for my desktop because of OneDrive. If you use it as intended, it works really well. I can login to my laptop, my phone or either of my wife’s PC’s and all my stuff is just there.

        Yes, I’ve tried nextcloud and it’s close, but the windows sync client is (was?) broken - the upload speed throttling logic is broken and it was going to take ages to sync my data. I went to the nextcloud community and it seemed to be a known issue that know one cares about because the sync just happens in the background and it’s done when it’s done.

        As I typed this I realised that if I move to Linux desktop I don’t care about the windows sync client :-) So now I’ve just got the issue that I won’t get my wife off windows and if we’re paying for 5TB of cloud storage, I might as well use it. Yes, I know there are ways to use OneDrive on Linux, but it doesn’t look as seamless and I’d be always concerned that Microsoft will do something to break it.

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          Thank you! I thought was going nuts. It’s been such a long time since I had think about whether something is synced or a way to set it up. With OneDrive I could just grab the files I needed from the cloud and push them off the drive if I needed space. It really took away any hassle about sync.

          It really feels like moving to Linux is a step back 10 years when it comes to cloud storage.
          I also tried nextcloud but the smart / on-demand/ virtual file system is experimental in the Linux client and doesn’t work as seemlesly as OneDrive. Besides being turned off every time I restart.

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          I had luck with increasing memory allocation in my php config for mine. Also having more ram may help if you have bigger files. Afaik nextcloud doesn’t have caching like unraid or truenas. I’m not aware of transfer speed issues. I’ve also no issues saturating my 1gig connection to it either.

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            My issue was specifically the windows sync client - not server or web related. I turned on debug in the client and watched the logs and saw it making stupid (IMHO) decisions about speed throttling.

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        I’ve been using next loud with my Nas for years. I sync things to it. Linux Windows Mac, doesn’t matter. Even my phone.

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        ExpanDrive is not free (as in libre or beer), but it’s great for OneDrive integration with the filesystem. Been using it for this for a few months now with no issues. Just my two cents.

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    …only if you HAVE onedrive account it can reach.

    This is a fantastic use case for NOT using a Microsoft account and instead a local account. No Microsoft authenticated account, no Onedrive.

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    I wonder about Microsoft’s liability on this one. People store all sorts of things in there, some personal, and some corporate things that are at least non-public, if not outright sensitive. Yeah, people should be using an encrypted drive for especially sensitive info (not that this would stop Microsoft when they own the OS), but they don’t, and it’s not for Microsoft to force the issue.

    Did their legal department actually sign off on this? Or did someone in MS legal just shit a brick when they saw the headlines?

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      "We’ve gone ahead and synced all your files to the cloud! Create an account to access them once again.

      Enter your email: ______

      [ Click here to delay the inevitable ]"

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      It just won’t work for a local account. This is for those who sign in/up. And those who are forced to sign in/up in the first setup. My hate towards Microsoft and all the companies like it increases every fucking day.

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    Last night I updated my BIOS and afterwards my Linux Boot Manager entry was gone. Almost expected but still didn’t prepare a LiveUSB, stupid. Had to boot into Windows for the first time in a year and was greeted with the message “Hey some security thing changed, your pin is no longer working. Wanna create a new one?” Of course you need to log in to your Microsoft account for that, otherwise you straight up can’t use your install anymore.

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        Believe me, I know :D

        I have half a mind to just nuke both partitions and just reinstall Arch on the entire drive.

        Although I am wondering what would have happened, if I didn’t have Windows installed after the BIOS update. No boot entries at all? 🤔

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      It will sneak back on. Linux is the only answer.

      Windows is the only operating system that is actively working against you these days. Sneaks in shit settings. Renenables disabled settings. Spies on you. Requires convoluted registry ha ks to stop some of the bullshit. And you always gotta be in too of it.

      No thanks, not for me.

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          I’m guessing you audit all the network traffic out of your machine too, to ensure things are not being exfiltrated? I assume you’ve also never had settings turned back on after an update? I sure as shit have.

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            I’ve never had the settings turned back on after an update, but no I don’t monitor my network traffic, if I cared that much, I’d already be on linux.

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      Microsoft is an abusive ex. It will keep abusing you because it knows no other way. You can waste your days trying to fight against it, trying to figure out how to disable and remove whatever new privacy invasive anti-consumer bloat Microsoft decides to roll out that Tuesday.

      Or you can leave and switch to Linux and waste time there instead. Tux is all about that respect and is handsome to boot. He might be a bit sensitive and break down rarely so you might need to spare a few to make sure he’s ok, but it’s nothing a little love can’t handle. And he’s only going to get better and stronger as he grows. You might even look forward to receiving updates (wow, I know). A stark contrast from your abusive ex.