In my late 30s, still doing it. I don’t expect to be rewarded though, I just want to toil away without being a dick to people around me.
Thank you
In my late 30s I realized I could work a little less hard, ask for support, and ask for what I wanted without expectations. It’s an improvement so far.
In my early 30s and after the constant flow of assholes fail upwards and get promoted ahead of me, I decided to set fire to the world and did a Office Space.
That constant directness led me to run a department.
This guy’s management material.
Thankfully, around 7-8th grade. The English and History teachers worked in tandem to impose a critical thinking background to their lessons. Of course, it made me and others cynical as shit, but we were at least less surprised when life decided to go in dry.
Trust me, if you’re thrust in unprepared and need to learn the lessons for yourself you will turn out more cynical in the long run.
I used to be so Idealistic…
Can I just respond to this with the entire lyrics for The Logical Song by Supertramp?
I miss MadTV… Great reference.
I teach for a living, yet I never learn.
FWIW, I had educators who were quite direct about their opinion of the job.
Oh I love the teaching, it’s the crap around it that bugs me. The hard work is all the paperwork that no-one ever reads - “write only documents” as my father used to call them.
At 15, on my first job. There were 3 others in the same position. I finished first, perfectly, while they goofed off. Told the manager, all excited. She had me clean out a closet while I waited for the others to catch up. It was a real defining moment.
The best thing is that this is true in every job. Your reward for being 15% more productive than everyone else is an extra 5% in wages. Sometimes not even that.
It’s really, really going to depend on your work environment. In some cases, being the person who is 15% more productive buys you some leverage and slack that others don’t have. Was that guy in some roles - there was definitely shit I was able to get away with that would’ve ended in disciplinary conversations for others.
The trick, though, is being to suss out when that’s actually the case, when you’re just deluding yourself , and when that might’ve been the case once but for whatever reason isn’t anymore. That’s tougher.
Yeah, in my environment I find that people tend to remember who they can trust with a task and who’s going to fuck it up. And that’s often the basis for networking.
Your reward for being 15% more productive than everyone else is 25% extra work
Fixed.
Also this.
Ok but if I’m even slightly mean to someone they try to screw me over for the rest of my life. Meanwhile, I see people getting away with it. I need a tutorial on being an asshole that people tolerate.
You have to make sure you’re only being an asshole to people who’re seen as beneath you. If someone above you both likes that person better than you’re going to get fucked. They on the other hand can be an asshole to you with impunity.
Kiss up, kick down. That’s how it’s always worked.
I don’t condone it, because we should be kissing down and kicking up, but the rich people don’t want it that way.
Let you know when it happens.
For the most part the more active and nicer you are the happier you will be. Yeah yeah you get taken advantage of, you know the same result if you are a lazy asshole.
Your insurance company is going to deny your claim, your stuff is going to break down, you will be ripped off, you will be injured, you will be robbied, and eventually you will die. All of this stuff will happen in your existence and there is fuck all you can do about it.
What you can do is stay active and stay giving. You can surround yourself with people who very much want you to be happy in life and your happiness almost completely depends on it.
So go ahead and make your decision. Do you want to pass judgement on a world that doesn’t care what you think about it and rot with whatever pathetic little you have or do you want deep connections and a lifetime of achievement.
This is good stuff! I love me some positivity
While I don’t fully disagree with this, I do disagree with the happiness being dependent on this, as that is highly subjective and is not true unanimously.
Why tell me? Tell all those shrinks and psychology professors who have been doing endless studies on this for a century.
Turns out Aristotle was right all along. Took us like 25 centuries to relearn it.
I tell you because you are the one that actively brought this point to a place of discussion.
Fine. I would start reading with the PERMA+ model
I’m aware of it. Although I am starting to lose belief that positivity is how you operate, strictly judging from your responses. Nonetheless, have a nice day.
Don’t think I made any claims about myself
Your statements in your original post are enough to go on, I’m not here to insult, just an observation.
23 - no one liked me…
Did you still act like you were in freshman year?
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Still trying to fully realise this.
Hard to be surrounded by the horrors of the world and not want to try and make things better.
Harder still to find any kind of institution or group that’s got the finances and expertise to make effective changes, but which hasn’t been hijacked and looted by corporate raiders.
Feels like I’m living in Mad Max world and I’m trying to decide which insane biker cult to join if I want to make the world a brighter friendlier place.
Jokes on you, i never had a plan
28 when they try to fire me during abrunout after doing 14h a day for 6 month while fighting for custody.
I was about 25. I did actually work my way up through sheer knowledge base within the first 6 years at the company. But after several years of going for a more technical position the boss slept with a new hire who was new to the industry and gave them the position.
I promptly left the company and heard that the person who gain the position through I’ll gotten means not only messed up a lot but also injured themselves doing stupid shit anyone who’s been in the industry would not do.
the boss slept with a new hire who was new to the industry and gave them the position
Wow, talk about whoring.
That hasn’t changed much. In my area, women are sleeping with men to get minimum wage and work twice as hard as men who don’t sleep with the same men (I guess) to not work hard and make 2-3 times as much. Let’s just say I’ve learned I can do without a whole lot of stuff I didn’t think I could before. For years.
Yeah, he was a total piece of work, married and his wife was pretty ill too
As a kid I somehow figured I could be both a world famous Hollywood actress and a stay at home mom at the same time. And achieve all of that by like 20.
I mean at least one of these things happened temporarily but not until my late 20s.
How many movies have you starred in so far? 👀
33 - After burning out from taking too much on 😅
When my angel of a tee totaling mother who would cry from the stress of working unpaid OT, making every family member custom holiday sweatshirts, or hosting other little girl’s birthday parties at their lazy mother’s request, died rather quickly from a brain tumor after her quack therapist ignored her months of aphasia. Selflessness guarantees nothing.
