• pgetsos@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    9 months ago

    This game was one of the very few I was waiting so badly to come out, and was so so disappointed with the launch. Still hasn’t convinced me to try it, although it has come a long way

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    9 months ago

    I’ll just go play the first Cities Skylines. I didn’t have many complaints with that one and still love it.

    Except for traffic. That shit is a nightmare.

    • arudesalad@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      9 months ago

      It was released along side mods (a very slow first party mod manager) so I guess they think it makes it better. The mods are good and it’s a nice thing that they don’t depend on the steam workshop anymore but they don’t excuse releasing a £10 dlc along side it that just adds more skins for low density houses when the game still doesn’t work

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        9 months ago

        To be fair, adding skins is a lot easier than fixing performance issues, and probably involves different, non-overlapping teams

        • DogEatWaffle@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          9 months ago

          They also made some pretty significant improvements to performance, and importantly, simulation speed with this one. But yeah, the DLC is kind of insulting.

  • novibe@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    9 months ago

    For all saying the content pack is scummy, first the devs that work on things like this are not the same fixing bugs and issues, working on mod tools etc. Second, this pack is part of the Ultimate Edition, which plenty of people paid for already. It’d be really scummy to NOT release this in a timely fashion for the people who already spent their money expecting it.

    I honestly don’t get the outrage at a freaking content pack that doesn’t affect anything at all…

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      9 months ago

      I mean, there’s obviously the stupid outrage of the “Why did they do this instead of fixing bugs?” variety (as if 3D artists can be reassigned to coding), but there’s also, I think, an absolutely justifiable resentment at being asked to pay $10 for an absolutely tiny handful of assets. Like, apparently this is something like ten buildings and four trees? That’s fucking weak. At around $3-$5 I think people would be fine with it, but $10 is just taking the piss.

      • novibe@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        I completely agree, the price is pretty ridiculous and almost no one seems to be focusing on that.

    • Guntrigger@feddit.ch
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      I understand the energy in these replies, but do you guys seriously think artists are packaging their work as a DLC and integrating it into the main game? There is still a lot of work that goes into any DLC or major integration that has to be done by the same people that fix bugs.

      • novibe@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Games like Cities don’t need that much dev work for assets to be placed in game. I’m sure the game was built with that in mind. That’s how there are so many assets and content to be downloaded in the steam workshop for Cities 1…

  • gerryflap@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    9 months ago

    Yeah the DLC is really scummy imo. Definitely not worth the money. I’m just gonna ignore it. What’s more hopeful is the free patch with the introduction of mods and a good amount of bugfixes. If they keep this going they might be able to pull a Cyberpunk (although slightly less dramatic).

    • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      9 months ago

      Watching gamers back peddle on cyberpunk hurts my soul. Just because the game is good now doesn’t excuse the bullshit they pulled on launch but peope just excuse it because it’s good now, they get what they deserve.

      • gerryflap@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        9 months ago

        I get what you say, but I bought Cyberpunk after the fixes and it’s legitimately one of my favourite games I’ve ever played. They should’ve never been in this position, but they righted their wrongs instead of abandoning the game and they made it into the masterpiece it deserved to be.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 months ago

        What exactly do you want done about it? Are people not allowed to like a game if they had a bad launch but have since fixed it up?

        Ultimately, the stakes are pretty low and you can avoid the risk of bad launches by just avoiding new launches in general and see where things stand with the game once the dust settles.

        Personally, I’d take a bad launch year over MTX or invasive DRM/anti-cheat methods that don’t even really work to stop piracy or cheating.

        • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          Bad launch is giving then the benefit of the doubt which they don’t deserve. They intentionally launched an incomplete game so they could make the money now and look good for investors, and then just fix it post launch while also giving out ‘free’ updates that should have just been all there on launch.

          Mind you I’m not complaining about the actual developers, it’s always the executives who are to blame when this happens.

          People need to vote with their wallets, if they stopped pre ordering and buying buggy messes at launch companies would be incentivised to actually release fully working/fully developed games.

          Also the whole background of how the devs and play testers were treated is horrendous.

  • HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    9 months ago

    I have Skylines 2 installed on Gamepass for PC and it updated the other day… 54 gigs.

    Damn thing basically just re-downloaded itself.

  • Guntrigger@feddit.ch
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    It’s kind of interesting that this franchise grew entirely out of the failure of SimCity in the same space. Now they are the ones fumbling their captive market and I wonder if another city builder franchise is going to spring up soon.