claim 1: “voting doesn’t change anything”
Never forget the recent case of Kris Mayes, who refuses to uphold the Arizona supreme court’s sweeping ban of abortion.
Kris Mayes only won her 2022 election by 280 votes. Voting changes things.
claim 2: “but genocide joe”
Yep. Hold that fucker’s feet to the fire. He has blood on his hands
But trump has promised to be indisputably worse.
I won’t tell you how to vote. I just encourage you to vote. You’re not radical for ditching the only miniscule right the state has granted you to do some small aid for your neighbors.
Beyond regularly voting in solidarity. We need to start running these younger better candidates ourselves. Republicans run unopposed in many places on state ballots. And Democrats have spent roughly the last decade ignoring these positions. We might not win all or even a large chunk of them. But we could by accident when a few and start building new coalitions from there. Making inroads into places that had given up on getting better. Voting is only the first step.
Michelle Vallejo is 32. Democrats cut her funding in her election against Monica De La Cruz in the crucial last month, during an election cycle in which the party did ad buys for MAGA candidates.
Younger, better candidates run. Party leadership prefers a maga chud to a progressive in any given position.
Vallejo is running again. I hope she has alternate funding this time.
Yeah, that’s the real issue here: neoliberals are more comfortable with fascism than progressivism or socialism, but most of the younger generation is (justifiably) disillusioned with liberalism, so of course the neoliberals Democratic Party is having a hard time finding candidates it wants to support.
The solution, of course, is to kick out the fucking neolibs that have a stranglehold on the party, but that’s easier said than done.
Very much so. It’s why I only donate to candidates and never the party. I only trust the party to spend it on ads for maga chuds.
That will never happen if neo libs can support a genocide and still be voted in. Why would they change if they can support a genocide and still win?
Here’s the problem – if that happens, conservative fascists can support genocides and still be voted in. In addition to all of their other appalling beliefs. And the thing is, when Republicans win, they swing the entire country to the right. It’s happened every time since Obama.
Consider too, what happened in 2020 after Clinton lost in 2016? Did the party swing hard left? Not at all. Bernie’s team helped adjust the rules for the primary to be fairer and did away with superdelegates. Still, in a head to head against Biden, he couldn’t win. And all primaries eventually winnow down to 2-3 candidates. In a ranked choice primary, Bernie wouldn’t have won even if everyone stayed in the whole time.
To swing left, you have to build continuously and gradually.
The party leadership is allowed to decide where their funding will go and where it won’t. And them not putting it towards a particular candidate does not mean they support the opposition. That they gave her funding in the first place even points to the opposite of that. And your conclusion is extremely disingenuous.
Make no mistake I have no love for neoliberals, democrats, or the party leadership. And it’s great that this one person ran. But up and down the ballot in my state and city there are Republicans running unopposed. We need to be able to point to many more than one single instance. And as you said we need to be prepared to help with alternate funding. Because the Democratic party cannot be relied on to any grrat extent. Which is the whole point of us getting people younger and better to run ourselves and not waiting for them to do it. Because we know their judgment is flawed. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make but you only really supported my point.
And they decided to spend their money on ad buys for maga candidates and to pull the rug out from under progressives. Which is why the party can get all the way fucked when it asks for my money. They’ll just waste it on maga chuds.
Their funding of the opposition indicates that.
Yeah, she makes a great object lesson for what happens when you run and aren’t MAGA-adjacent enough for the party’s liking.
Wonder if that has anything to do with progressives not being able to count on support of the Democratic Party.
Their judgement is sound; they just prefer maga candidates to progressives.
There’s no proof of that. That is a hyperbolic and absurd claim. Have they strategically propped up and pushed for bad Republican candidates before? Yes. Not because they support them. But because they are generally so weak they think it’s some sort of viable strategy to defeat Republicans. It’s backfired soundly on them and they haven’t learned. Claiming that they actually “support” them is absurd however. You’re literally claiming that they wanted Trump to win in 2016 over hillary. Because they prompt him up early on. When clearly that isn’t the case.
No. It’s another bad Democrat strategy where they focus almost solely on the national level. And largely ignore state offices and legislatures. Its been that way at least 20 years. If you’re old enough to remember.
No. It’s still an absurd, hyperbolic, and unsupported claim. I’m not arguing that the Democrat leadership hasn’t behaved stupidly. There’s more evidence that they have than of most other things in life. But they’re not trying to get the magats in office. They’ve always intended to beat them. But the morons legitimately don’t know how to do that reliably.
We’re looking at the same set of events. You’re calling it incompetence. I’m calling it malice. If it were just incompetence, you’d think at least once the party would bumble into looking like they had their thumbs on the scale for progressives.
They have multiple times. Whether it’s the chips act, the NLRB decision or some of the more recent ones. Some of the stuff in this list is pretty specious but it’s a pretty decent list. And it’s not as long as it should be. But it’s definitely not nothing.
Democrats are absolutely incompetent. There’s no question. But if you think they’re actively pushing to get magats elected. You make the people thinking there was a child sex dungeon in the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement seem slightly more sane.
Oh cool. The list that counts changing the color scheme on a plane as an accomplishment.
They’re paying for their ads and starving progressives of funds.
I literally told you that some of them weren’t really valid. And that’s your best reply. The Chips act, NLRB decision, the debt relief, and recent FTC decisions. They’re HUGE. And the fact you can’t engage and act maturely like an adult. Just shows how disingenuous you’re being.
And? Lay out the conspiracy gymnastics to go from that to literally supporting Republican candidates with intent of getting them elected. Is this being orchestrated by the Bilderbergs, the lizard people, maybe the greys? Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained with incompetence. Though in your case it may be both.