What are cis and trans alternate types of? I don’t think it’s “gender identity” because wouldn’t that just be man, woman or nonbinary regardless of whether they’re cis or trans? Cis/trans just being a qualifier?

If the answer is “I am cis” or “I am trans”, what is the question?

Edit: Someone came up with the term “gender congruity” and (after looking up the definition of “congruity”) I think this describes what I’m talking about perfectly.

  • @fubo@lemmy.world
    43•1 year ago

    To a first approximation, they describe the match or mismatch between a person’s gender identity and their assigned gender at birth (AGAB).

    “Cis” = “my gender identity matches my assigned gender at birth”
    “Trans” = “my gender identity does not match my assigned gender at birth”

    The question being asked is, “Given that when you were born they thought of you as a (boy/girl); are you now expressing or experiencing a (male/female) gender, or a (female/male) one?”

    Logically speaking, this is an xor operation; it asks if two things are the same or different. If boolean variable a represents your AGAB and boolean variable b represents your gender identity, then “are you trans?” is a xor b — is your AGAB different from your gender identity?

    Again, this is to a first approximation. There are people who don’t fit binary labels, and so an xor operation on binary labels doesn’t fit them either.

    • @mcherm@lemmy.world
      6•1 year ago

      I like the way you express this. “Cis / Trans” isn’t about your gender, it’s about whether your gender has CHANGED. (Although it may not be your GENDER that changed, but what people THOUGHT your gender was.)

      In a similar way, I (a cis male) usually call myself “straight”, but that’s not really accurate. I don’t feel like I’m attracted to whatever gender is different from mine (which happens to be women); I feel like I am attracted to women (which happens to be the gender that’s different from mine).

      Putting it differently, if some magical spell were to transform me into a woman, I don’t imagine that I would then be attracted to men, I imagine that I would be attracted to women. So instead of calling myself “straight”, I should probably be saying that I am “gynosexual” (attracted to women).

      • @Holyginz@lemmy.world
        1•1 year ago

        I really really love the way you phrased that. Just thought I would let you know. Bookmarking your comment as a discussion point for the future as well.

        • @mcherm@lemmy.world
          1•1 year ago

          Thank you. It’s a thought that has been rolling around in my head for some time and this was my attempt to put it in words.

    • Tb0n3
      2•1 year ago

      There’s actually a word for “Gender assigned at birth” and it’s sex. Biological sex.

        • Tb0n3
          2•1 year ago

          Ah yes. Intersex people. What’s the percentage on that? 0.01%? Why bother catering to such a vanishingly small segment of the population with your language? For the vast vast majority of people sex is the “gender assigned at birth”. It’s the genetics definition.

      • @silent_clash@lemmygrad.ml
        1•1 year ago

        The way somebody is socialized and raised isn’t inextricably linked with their sex. Also, intersex people are routinely assigned a gender, although thankfully that’s changing.