• TimeSquirrel@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Sorry, justify it and sugarcoat to yourself and speculate however you want, you’re not going to convince me both sides aren’t evil sick and twisted assholes in this conflict with both Palestinian and Israeli civilians caught in the middle.

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      1 year ago

      No need to apologize. I understand you’ve made up your mind already, but the facts are clear, and others reading my comment can cross what I said with the video to compare and verify me.

      “both sides” is a meaningless stance. What are you recommending, other than maintaining the status quo of massacre and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians? Of slow death and suffocation? What are Palestinians to do but resist?

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        1 year ago

        I don’t have an answer to that. Nobody has a good answer to that. It doesn’t mean I condone targeting civilians, no matter who it is. They both have the right to exist and live in peace.

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          By supporting the status quo, you are supporting the murder of civilians involved in said status quo. No worries though, its not surprising from westerners. Been doing it for centuries now.

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            Did I say I support the status quo? No, I did not. But your “solution” is also not acceptable to me. I’d say the same damn thing if I ever found out that people who lived under the holocaust harmed random people in the streets of Germany. That is simply never justifiable. I would take my own life before I ever take the life of a noncombatant civilian who has personally done me no harm. That’s something I could never live with, maybe you can.

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              Did I say I support the status quo? No, I did not.

              You have opposed any change to the status quo. What else would that make you?

              I’d say the same damn thing if I ever found out that people who lived under the holocaust harmed random people in the streets of Germany.

              The resistance against Nazi Germany actually had far far more civilian casualties than Palestine’s resistance against Israel, despite the fact that the Palestinian cause has been ongoing for way longer. Did you really not know this? I must be misunderstanding you, or maybe you misspoke. I thought they teach about this extensively in the US

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      This may be true but in order to come to a meaningful solution you cannot be afraid to analyze the situation. By all conclusions the violence and power in this situation is entirely asymmetrical. The IDF have been operating an apartheid state and an open air prison. These conditions led to the violence. The solution is a free Palestine.