They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog “Tutsi.”

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

“They are breaking down the safe room door,” Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. “We need someone to come by the house right now.” She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the “sweetest biggest heart,” who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

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      Was she supporting Hamas, or the Palestinian people?

      Do you understand the difference between the two?

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        Doesn’t really matter. The people largely and enthusiasticly support Hamas. Have we not learned this lesson from Russia and China and every other authoritarian state? They will have to be literally reprogrammed similar to the denazification of Germany.

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          You are just talking out your ass…

          The Palestinian people are just like us. Most of them just want to exist in peace.

          I thought Conan did a good job humanizing the very real Palestinians who are regular, peaceful individuals.

          In the full episode, he goes around a market telling people their prices are “bullshit” as a ‘negotiation technique’ and they reacted better than many of my fellow Americans would have.

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            The Palestinian people are just like us

            Yeah, and people are stupid, easily manipulated, and forged by their environment and religion. We aren’t special, we’re just rich and live in nations whose cultures are organized in part to stomp out hate.

            I’m sure there are good people in Palestine who are truly opposed to the idea of purging the Jews. I’m also sure they’re a minority.

            But if you want to be all empathetic and go help the Palestinian people…

            You’ll be kidnapped and possibly killed because you don’t align with their fantasy sky God.

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              You seem very sure of things you know little about. Blatantly jumping to conclusions.

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                Lady was literally kidnapped and recent polls show rising support for Hamas, above 50 percent. You should recognize a grape as a grape.

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                  Look thru my comment history instead of being an idiot and jumping to conclusions about my beliefs and the complex conflict between Palestine and Isreal.

                  I do not support Hamas or Isreal in their expansionism and ethnic cleansing. You are being blatantly hypocritical if you support the human rights violations and mass murder of Palestinians by Isreal, while simultaneously condemning the terrorist attack by Hamas which targeted Isreali citizens.

                  Your use of emotional reasoning to justify the mass murder of Palestinians by Isreal is the same exact emotional reasoning being used by people trying to justify Hamas’ terrorist attack against Isreal.

                  If you cannot see that, than it’s because you’re jumping thru hoops in your head to try to rationalize away the cognitive dissonance, or you’re just too stupid to comprehend logic and language.

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                    You’re reading a whole lot of shit I didn’t say here.

                    I do not support Hamas or Isreal

                    Never said you did.

                    You are being blatantly hypocritical if you support the human rights violations and mass murder of Palestinians by Isreal, while simultaneously condemning the terrorist attack by Hamas

                    My only real opinion there is that Israel is an American ally and doesn’t side with the people running around chanting death to America, so I’m roughly on their side in that respect.

                    The emotional aspects don’t matter and I don’t particularly care about deaths on either side when they’re all an ocean away. It’s just two countries at war. They’re both full of religious nutters, although Israel also probably wouldn’t kill me for being an atheist so they’re less bad in that respect as well.

                    And I said this lady was stupid for trying to help and aid a group of people who is really just hilariously evil. You’re wasting your time and putting yourself in danger. I didn’t justify any killings.

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            That someone would be creating a strawman.

            The KKK is not the ruling government of the US. The KKK has next to nothing for popular support. The KKK does not claim to be working in the best interests of all Americans.

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            Would that not be a fair question if the KKK had been the democratically elected, ruling party in the U.S. going on two decades now? E.G. asking a german in the early 1940’s why they love the Nazis?