President Joe Biden is arguing that “there is something dangerous happening in America” as he revives his warnings that Donald Trump and his allies represent an existential threat to the country’s democratic institutions.
“There is an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs of our democracy. The MAGA movement,” Biden says in excerpts of the speech Thursday in Arizona, released in advance by the White House, referring Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan.
Although voting in the 2024 Republican primary doesn’t begin for months, Biden’s focus reflects Trump’s status as the undisputed frontrunner for his party’s nomination despite facing four indictments, two of them related to his attempts to overturn Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.
Celebrate democracy!
By getting to choose between two octogenarians no one really wants…
You should be voting safe when things are unstable.
Worry about it when we don’t have people trying to elect literal traitors who tried to overthrow the government.
Sounds like a perverse incentive to keep things unstable.
Sure, there’s incentive to try to maintain that
It just requires relying on a bunch of people who can’t be relied to want to keep that status quo, and would probably kill their opposition given the opportunity.
Yeah, you could assume there’s an incentive if you looked at it in the most narrow vacuum.
Democrats do have a habit of assuming good faith on the part of Republicans when it’s obvious that none exists.
They’re either idiots too stupid to be in office for believing it…
Or they’re liars that shouldn’t be in office because they’re not legitimately trying.
I’ve said that a lot, and no one has come up with a viable third option. It’s been happening for over 30 years, there’s no excuse for anyone running for office to not get it by now.
That’s right there’s literally no way to choose between them because they are in the same age bracket. Poor you.
That’s not what I’m saying.
If I asked 100 people if they wanted shot in the head or leg, they’d all pick leg. It’s an easy choice between two things you don’t want to happen.
Doesn’t mean people are lining up to get shot in the leg for no reason, it’s only to avoid getting shot in the head.
And that’s why voter turnout is so bad.
I’m a progressive and wish the Democrats, including Biden, were far more progressive. But comparing him to being shot in the leg? How so? Just because of his age?
SFW?
Understood, but running with that analogy, it’s a fucking stupid reason for turnout to be bad. Leg or head? That’s a shit choice! You choose for me.
Because some people are bad enough off already a shot to the leg will still kill them, just be slow and painful.
They’re dying either way mate.
That’s not even getting i to how for lots of people, voting ain’t a 10 minute stop on the way home from work.
It’s 4 or even 8 hours waiting inline instead of putting food on the table.
Try to have some empathy
More like “I’m just not going to choose to be shot, thanks, you all have fun with that”.
You have misunderstood the metaphor. (edit: Rather, the people you’re describing have.)
You cannot opt out. Someone will take the office.
Rather, I reject the flawed nature of the metaphor and its poor fit. That’s true - someone will take office… and you’re not obligated to choose to be shot in either the leg or the head. You can, say, make no choice. You can choose, say, the hand.
We’re all going to be shot through what some choose. Some will go for everyone getting headshot, some will go for everyone losing a leg… and roughly the same will decide such a choice is absurd and not make a choice at all. Some few will choose something less damaging entirely.
Of course, one has the freedom to cast their vote, or not, as they like. But I can’t fathom why someone would “choose” an impossible outcome that ultimately makes the fatal scenario more likely instead of moving the needle toward the survivable one. It strikes me as irrational, which I could ignore if it were mere self-sabotage, but this affects others too.
Does voting third party or abstaining somehow increase the count of votes for Republicans? I realize I’ve been out of school a while, but my understanding was it did not.
Would this be more or less irrational than actively perpetuating the problems with a party and its candidates by guaranteeing them your vote for no reason other than they’re not as bad as a different party?
Unless you are leaving the country, you’re getting shot
What does their age have to do with any of it?
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