Ukraine told critics of the pace of its three-month-old counteroffensive to "shut up" on Thursday, the sharpest signal yet of Kyiv's frustration at leaks from Western officials that say its forces are advancing too slowly.
I know it’s purely anecdotal but all the Ukrainians I’ve had in my town have been some of the most kindest and polite people I’ve had the pleasure of serving
Usually true of refugee populations. People in the West don’t realise what it takes to leave your country forever and build a new life from nothing somewhere else. These are strong people who value community and charity because they can’t take it for granted anymore.
Sadly, this is the sort of shit parroted amongst less tech savy populations in countries with Ukranian refugees. Mostly older parents, grandparents, older aunts and uncles and such from Eastern Europe (the first port of call usually for refugees - neighboring countries). Hence why you don’t see it that often around here. It’s present in the west of Europe, as well.
Also quite popular is ‘we can’t take care of our own [homeless people], but have you seen the amount of money that the government is pumping into them with their fancy cars?’
Oh and “I’m sick and tired of hearing ukranian everywhere I go. The playground is full of ukranian children and their parents that don’t speak {local language}!”
I suspect it’s russian propaganda, because nobody can be that stupid on their own, right?
Like sure, they have audi q8s. What were they supposed to do? Leave them there and walk towards new places? And if your daughter/son was fleeing invaders, what would you think of the asshats that point at them and say ‘go away with yer fancy car!’? I thought we were all on the same page of not wanting russia as a neighbour in the near future. Apparently not. Somehow people running away from actual rape and murder are inconveniencing them.
Your logic is that the rich Ukrainians that bribed their way out of the war should be allowed to enjoy their wealth while their countrymen die for their freedom, rather than sell their luxury cars to help the war effort? I think you’re a giant POS and would never want to know you IRL.
So where are you on the other refugees who get nothing
We didn’t buy those cars for them if that’s what you’re trying to imply here. Being a refugee doesn’t mean that you leave your country without any possessions or money.
and are from even close countries than Ukraine?
They get nothing because they’re not white, right?
I’m not aware of any bonus for Ukrainian refugees that would set them apart from others. But feel free to cough up some facts.
It is morally questionable, yes. But we are not talking about hundreds of thousands of refugees with luxury cars. In every conflict there are people with a golden parachute.
Those are the ones you see. How do you tell a Ukrainian from your own countrymen on a bus? They’re not all rich, they’re not all assholes, they are where they are because they wanted to stay alive. And so would you if you were in their shoes, you dense fuck.
I know you are getting downvoted and railed on pretty hard here, but please take this moment to reconsider some of your core beliefs and why you might feel the way you do.
Are people fleeing their home country to get rich?
Is that the Ukrainians fault? They’re not the ones deciding how they’re being treated. They’re not the ones deciding how other refugees are treated either.
Why are you mad at them instead of the people making those decisions?
They got rich by being crooks in the most corrupt country in Europe. They fled the country they ruined and turned into a shithole vassal state of the USA. These are the worst Ukraine has to offer.
I’m sorry you have so much hate for people you do not understand. Genuinely, it might be better to see people as just people, and not representatives of the worst parts of the governments they happened to be born under.
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This has to be the dumbest take I’ve seen on Lemmy yet. Holy shit.
No kidding.
I know it’s purely anecdotal but all the Ukrainians I’ve had in my town have been some of the most kindest and polite people I’ve had the pleasure of serving
Usually true of refugee populations. People in the West don’t realise what it takes to leave your country forever and build a new life from nothing somewhere else. These are strong people who value community and charity because they can’t take it for granted anymore.
I… have some news for you.
Sadly, this is the sort of shit parroted amongst less tech savy populations in countries with Ukranian refugees. Mostly older parents, grandparents, older aunts and uncles and such from Eastern Europe (the first port of call usually for refugees - neighboring countries). Hence why you don’t see it that often around here. It’s present in the west of Europe, as well.
Also quite popular is ‘we can’t take care of our own [homeless people], but have you seen the amount of money that the government is pumping into them with their fancy cars?’
Oh and “I’m sick and tired of hearing ukranian everywhere I go. The playground is full of ukranian children and their parents that don’t speak {local language}!”
I suspect it’s russian propaganda, because nobody can be that stupid on their own, right?
Like sure, they have audi q8s. What were they supposed to do? Leave them there and walk towards new places? And if your daughter/son was fleeing invaders, what would you think of the asshats that point at them and say ‘go away with yer fancy car!’? I thought we were all on the same page of not wanting russia as a neighbour in the near future. Apparently not. Somehow people running away from actual rape and murder are inconveniencing them.
Your logic is that the rich Ukrainians that bribed their way out of the war should be allowed to enjoy their wealth while their countrymen die for their freedom, rather than sell their luxury cars to help the war effort? I think you’re a giant POS and would never want to know you IRL.
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So you’re just jealous because they weren’t all beggars when the war broke out?
A lot of people are getting killed. They have every right to complain.
So where are you on the other refugees who get nothing and are from even close countries than Ukraine?
They get nothing because they’re not white, right?
We didn’t buy those cars for them if that’s what you’re trying to imply here. Being a refugee doesn’t mean that you leave your country without any possessions or money.
I’m not aware of any bonus for Ukrainian refugees that would set them apart from others. But feel free to cough up some facts.
Their countryman are dying and pleasding for support, and they’re driving luxury cars. You don’t see anything wrong with that?
It is morally questionable, yes. But we are not talking about hundreds of thousands of refugees with luxury cars. In every conflict there are people with a golden parachute.
Seems like there are enough of them to make it apparent to many that they’ve absconded with wealth that should be used for the war effort.
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Those are the ones you see. How do you tell a Ukrainian from your own countrymen on a bus? They’re not all rich, they’re not all assholes, they are where they are because they wanted to stay alive. And so would you if you were in their shoes, you dense fuck.
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He can tell them apart through a shaded car window in the middle of traffic, who knows what this guy can do.
What a hot and plainly idiotic take.
If you’re not shilling for the Russians, you’re certainly dense as fuck.
Probably a bot, they love to start their propaganda with “as an X I think that…”
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They might be getting Europeanness confused with EU membership - I wonder if they think Switzerland and Norway are part of Europe?
Hey,
I know you are getting downvoted and railed on pretty hard here, but please take this moment to reconsider some of your core beliefs and why you might feel the way you do.
Are people fleeing their home country to get rich?
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Look at Mr Worldwide over here who knows each and every Ukrainian.
Sure.
Is that the Ukrainians fault? They’re not the ones deciding how they’re being treated. They’re not the ones deciding how other refugees are treated either.
Why are you mad at them instead of the people making those decisions?
They got rich by being crooks in the most corrupt country in Europe. They fled the country they ruined and turned into a shithole vassal state of the USA. These are the worst Ukraine has to offer.
I’m sorry you have so much hate for people you do not understand. Genuinely, it might be better to see people as just people, and not representatives of the worst parts of the governments they happened to be born under.
I understand them just fine. Nazis are not people.
Diday terb yur jerbs?
You don’t flee to get rich, you flee to stay alive. It’s no matter of money.