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  • Claidheamh@slrpnk.net
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    What’s the difference for the greenhouse effect between burning dead reserves or living reserves?

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      The dead reserves, coal and oil, are NOT currently greenhouse gases (GHG). They have no effect on global warming, they are essentially inert.

      Growing and burning living reserves takes currently active GHG, literally they use carbon from the air to grow their biomass (I.e. leaves, stems, everything). That ghg is temporarily stored in the plants, then equally released into the atmosphere from exactly where it came from.

      The carbon can’t be created or destroyed in either process from nothing, it’s coming from somewhere. When burning the fuel that carbon is released to the atmosphere in the form of co2 and other products. Fossil fuels, from inert carbon repositories that haven’t been in the atmosphere for many millions, hundreds of millions, of years. For biofuel, it’s carbon that may have been in the atmosphere at most like… A year ago. As soon as yesterday.

      Does that help clear things up? I was intentionally repetitive in case one method was more effective than the other.

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        I know all that, but I don’t think you’re understanding the point I’m making. Grow all those plants, and leave the carbon there. It’s a much better use of our resources than burning it all again straight after. Let them become coal. And then continue not burning it.

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          You asked what the difference was and claimed that biofuels aren’t carbon neutral and that both are equivalent. I explained why they are carbon neutral in theory and why they are very different from burning fossil fuels.

          Carbon capture and biofuels are approaching two extremely different problems. Carbon capture is not mutually exclusive with biofuels, they aren’t even close to alternatives. Framing them as alternatives is ridiculous. Literally different problems, carbon capture doesn’t produce power (the opposite, in fact) and biofuels are extremely inefficient land use for carbon capture, and slow.

          That just sounds like absurdly naive or bad faith black and white thinking, honestly. It doesn’t make sense as a claim.