Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

  • mindbleach@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The irony of you repeatedly sneering “reading comprehension” is delightful.

    Yes, idiot, people can see my perfectly consistent point. Good job. I once told you to stop lumping together drawings with CSAM, and now, I’m still telling you stop lumping together drawings with CSAM.

    CSAM is a product of rape. Child rape is part of the subject matter. That is the “child abuse” that’s in the goddamn headline.

    Except the dolts at Stanford lumped in drawings.

    And you aggressively do not see the problem with treating those things the same way.

    Even though one is a drawing, and the other is rape. You are… equating… those two things. You are treating them identically and interchangeably.

    And you need to stop.

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      1 year ago

      “treating them the same” => The threshold for being banned is just already crossed at the lolicon level.

      From the perspective of the park, pissing in a pond and fighting a dude both get you thrown out. That doesn’t mean you’re “treating them the same”. You’re just the park.

      Do you get it now?

      • mindbleach@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You’ve absolutely treated them the same.

        You see no problem with this study explicitly about CSAM casually lumping in… drawings.

        The only reason you said shit to me in the first place was to smugly assert that they belong together. You declared confidently that the entire world was on your side, which does raise questions of who exactly is hosting and using these servers full of drawings you don’t like.

        But the issue is the false equivalence.

        The only issue is the false equivalence.

        Sounding the alarm about child rape shouldn’t fucking include drawings for the same reason reports of a murder epidemic at the local park shouldn’t throw in “and also someone pissed in the pond.” Bit of a difference there! Kind of important! Negative one and negative one billion are both negative, but they’re plainly not as negative, are they? They don’t belong in the same sentence without a very narrow context. Glibly chastising someone, for pointing out that gulf, is the polar opposite of helpful, to anyone.

        Saying ‘so what, they’re both bad’ is false equivalence. It’s dangerous nonsense that enables far-reaching abuse of power. What you’re doing is the textbook basis for unjustifiable surveillance laws, censorship, and general moral policing. If your kneejerk reaction when someone belabors the difference between “we have to stop this proliferation of child rape!” and “we have to stop this proliferation of drawings we don’t like!” is to insist you don’t like either and you’d expect them to be treated the same - you are the problem.

        I mean, not as much of a problem as child rape, but nonetheless, shut up already.

        • balls_expert
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          1 year ago

          The study is transparent about their definition of CSAM. At this point, if you don’t get it, you don’t get it. Sorry dude.

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              1 year ago

              You’re really mad that a US based study is using the US definition of CSAM while also clearly stating the definition of CSAM they’re using, aren’t you?

              Sure buddy, it’s a “false equivalence”, they’re totally stating it’s the same. It’s not just your reading comprehension

              • mindbleach@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                I don’t believe you’re physically capable of self-consistently stating what you think your point is. You’re somehow not equating these things you just said are defined as the same thing. You’re sneering as if noticing that definition - which you block-quoted - is some kind of delusion.

                All while projecting emotion in a way that’s almost as ironic as your constant parroting of the phrase “reading comprehension.”

                Is it difficult to use the internet without object permanence?