There is a difference between approaching a solution with “no, it’s not good enough” and “good, now let’s make it better”. It’s not really different if you strip feeling out of it, but in a greater context, that feeling means something.
I agree with your responses, but you’re overall using the former technique. That will rub people wrong and spark conflict.
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Is what it would be, and the pic is someone obviously making it wrong on purpose
Why would you spread this? That’s the point of these things, to get a reaction out of people and get it seen by more people.
Stop making shit worse
Dude, I just said it’s not indentured servitude.
I never said the system wasn’t broken, in fact I’m on one of those horrible visas now.
Some sort of rule about verification may help your cause, and I hope it runs well for you
Without strong and trusted mods, this will be interesting…
Also, down votes aren’t supposed to be for people who are correcting you (or people you disagree with 😘)
That doesn’t contradict what I said? It matches everything I’ve said as well. And there’s a 60 day grace period generally speaking. Can you define and name any similar with indentured servitude?
That isn’t the rule for h1b visas.
If you want to simplify it, then it’d be If you want to live and work in a country, you have to be sponsored by a company. If you’re laid off, you have 60 days to find another sponsor
I’m not doing either of those things. You made a claim by misunderstanding terms for hyperbole. I said that your claim isn’t true. You backed up your claim with more hyperbole. I rebutted that with how it’s standard practice globally and even in within a larger scope is a more reasonable standard.
QED, the US visa program is not indentured servitude, by colloquial or exact definitions, and not ultra-capitalistic by any stretch. These are not whataboutism or dodging. They directly address your statements.
All countries have some sort of work for visa program, which by itself is not indentured servitude. And given there are non ultra-capitalistic countries that also have it, the practice is also not “as far as one can get”.
Hell, to group the US 's visa program in with the ones that literally end with slavery (and are actually like what you described) is just poor form.
Well yeah, that comes with any sort of immigration setup.
It can be, but isn’t a guarantee. All countries do this to an extent, some do it better than others. You calling it the wrong thing trying to drive a point home with hyperbole isn’t helpful to anyone.
Tying a visa to an employer is not indentured servitude.
Zelensky said something about X You said “well he didn’t do anything about Y”
That’s whataboutism. You may have meant it honestly, but ultimately what that kind of argument does is attempt to reduce zelenskys response to this action by comparing it to how he may have done something not as good in a different situation.
Saying that “strikes will cause disruption” is not union busting in any sense of the word.
It’s the consequence for shitty company practices and how workers get to be heard. It’s literally the point of a strike. It’s stating a fact.
Because the term means real things that can be legally fought against. If you misuse the term and teach others to misuse it, it’s is more likely that other people will react incorrectly to challenges faced.
An easy way to undermine a movement is to look at people who are saying factually incorrect things to make their point and say “see? They don’t know what they’re talking about. Don’t listen to them”. And boom you’ve now made it easier to convince anyone on the fence to side against you.
It’s a really easy and common divide and conquer strategy.
If you want to help people while firing them up, then feed them the real information about union busting and how companies are actually doing it.
Union busting is a real and legal thing. This isn’t it. You promoting these lies harms people trying to unionize.
Blowing up a country is different than rounding people up and summarily executing them
It’s been the consistent recommendation since day 1.