This change is like a month old in T+C. It’s 5 in a short period.
This change is like a month old in T+C. It’s 5 in a short period.
5 legal cases so far. Hordes of people in this and similar threads trying to hang tourists from the nearest tree because they enjoy guns.
If you’re from elsewhere it will go as I said.
Then you should try reading the article. It describes 4 of the recent cases. In those cases people were not found with guns and had 2, 2, 4, and 20 rounds of ammo respectively.
Go to the gun range once and you’ll understand that’s not smuggling ammunition for criminal use. That’s an oopsie I forgot that was in that bag.
You missed the part where I wrote “in smuggling cases”.
ETA: you also listed examples that do require intent… like omg I accidentally fucked a 17 year old.
Or omg my car just drove itself too fast.
What? Think then type.
The only thing that would happen is confiscation and denied entry.
And what is your point? That imprisoning those people for 4 years is good and fair policy and other countries should do it too?
Do you realize there are 5 cases already like this? Do you know why? Because this mistake is super common.
Do you realize that means this probably happened dozens of times a year before this recent change took effect? And that all those people in the past returned home with their ammo completely undetected by anyone, including themselves?
You know what something’s called when nobody even notices it happened?
Harmless. Absent of harm.
Have you ever been to the range? How much ammo did you use? If you wanted to smuggle and sell ammo into another country for money, how much would you bring? Would you bring your wife and book a vacation stay?
You are wrong, that is not true at all. We confiscate the items, sometimes deny entry, and sometimes ban future entry. It happens all the time with pharmaceuticals, produce, and any number of other goods that are legal elsewhere but not here. Spending tax money to imprison people for years over minor cultural differences and misunderstandings is absolutely brain dead policy.
There are already 5 cases like this because this is a super common mistake and T+C recently implemented a change in their policy for handling it.
You see how it says “illegal” there? In smuggling cases there has to be this other thing called “intent” for it to have been illegal.
If a Mexican gets some codeine at a Mexican pharmacy, forgets it in their bag, and flies into the USA we don’t pay tax money to imprison them for years. We take it, ban them, and send them back.
Why? Because they are careless, not smugglers.
I understand what words mean, thanks. I’m responding to the hordes of teenagers frothing at the mouth for severe punishment in these cases. There are 5 now.
Because of the quantity and having a brain.
No, it isn’t.
Also a really fucking stupid take? It should always be based on the facts of the case, not the color of skin or gender. If a cute white woman is carrying guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo punish away.
You keep using that word. It isn’t smuggling, it is forgetting a round of ammo in a bag. Your view on this is extreme. There is nuance in the world…
I didnt say it wasn’t irresponsible and I didnt say give them a pass. I said don’t give them years in prison for an honest harmless mistake. Maybe ban them from returning? Something less extreme…
This is the dumbest take. Most crimes require an element of intent. Using the same bag you use to take shooting or hunting is not intent to smuggle weapons. The quantities of the items found demonstrate no ill intent.
Just because you personally disagree with the 100 million gun owners doesn’t make this a moderate take. Imprisoning people for years because of a loose round in luggage is moronic politically and a waste of tax money.
I’m pretty libertarian but I’ve also seen the spray paint section of Home Depot so no thanks
You thought Bernie was gonna win?
Are you guys talking about the rapist who now goes by Allen Turner to avoid his reputation as the rapist Brock Turner?