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Cake day: August 1st, 2023

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  • You equating them to trumpists means you’re being wildly disingenuous. I get that you hates the hexbears, clearly. But disagreements on the internet do not equal the damage trumpists do in real life, and comparing the two as equals just makes you sound like an extremist who has an agenda against hexbear. Have hexbears tried to raid the capital? Have they directly threatened politicians? Have they installed a president like Trump? Have they committed voter fraud? Did they try to raid an fbi office, attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan, attempt to overthrow an election, did they put laws into effect limiting my rights, I could obviously go on… Hexbear is not even slightly the same, and to say so makes you seem like someone trying to shift the perception in your favor by making this decision seem polarized; black and white, yes and no, bad guys vs good guys.

    Shitty beliefs and shitty policies are all over the left and right spectrum, I don’t have to agree with everything hexbear users have to say to think conversations with them are still important. Hell, if right wing nuts actually bothered to talk instead of react and yell I’d even attempt to have conversations with them, in spite of having completely different values. If truly you feel that strongly, block them if you want. But you don’t get to make that choice for me, the admins do.

    I’m going to block you now, because it seems like you’re hard-pressed to convince me to defederate, then having a genuine discussion. And I’d rather not continue talking with someone who seems disingenuous and makes these kind of gigantic “both sides” leaps in comparing Trumpists and Hexbear members. That’s straight up slander friend. Not cool.


  • Show me where “a huge fraction” of them are doing that NOT IN RESPONSE to people badmouthing them and accusing them of shit, but for no reason. Show me these hijacked communities you keep mentioning. Show me these many conversations that are “entirely unreadable”. Show me anti-trans rhetoric that isn’t swiftly dealt with by their admins.

    Defederating isn’t the answer, giving individuals the ability to block whole instances on every platform they use is the answer.


  • Have I seen individuals say shitty things? Of course, but I don’t assume every person on hexbear is an enemy. For instance, over on lemm.ee I just had a convo with someone who was vehemently pro-landlord and hated “communism” while admitting they’ve never read any communist literature. Should I assume this is what everyone on lemm.ee is like? I’ve run across a TON of trolls and anti-leftists on lemmy.world… should I assume everyone on lemmy.world is a troll? Lemmynsfw is constantly throwing up communities that somehow bypass the nsfw filters. Should I make assumptions about everyone on lemmynsfw too now? That is a slippery slope into an echo chamber imho.

    Give users the ability to block whole instances, and only defederate when a WHOLE instance is geared towards disruption, like explodingheads. I wandered around hexbear yesterday looking through their communites and posts, and there’s definitely some opinions I don’t agree with, but I’m not seeing calls to flood posts on other instances like people are claiming. All I’m seeing is a lot of in-jokes, memes, and civil discussions.


  • I honestly think the hate toward hexbear is mostly manufactured. A lot of the people complaining are the same ones erroneously comparing them to places like exploding heads, claiming they’re nazi trolls, that they go on downvoting raids (they can’t even downvote btw), accusing them of terrible things, but then don’t (or won’t) provide any proof of them acting this way. And when people like me who aren’t on hexbear question it, we get accused of being a “hexbear in disguise” and ignored. It all feels very dramatic and reddit, and I thought the point of lemmy was to not be like reddit. Defederating from problematic instances I get, but defederating because you hate tankies or because of a few bad members seems more of an ‘echo chamber’ choice than a ‘keep the community safe’ choice to me.