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The Nexus of Privacy to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

Here Are the Secret Locations of ShotSpotter Gunfire Sensors

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Here Are the Secret Locations of ShotSpotter Gunfire Sensors

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The Nexus of Privacy to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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The locations of microphones used to detect gunshots have been kept hidden from police and the public. A WIRED analysis of leaked coordinates confirms arguments critics have made against the technology.
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    The only problem ShotSpotter solves is not enough public money into private hands. What information does it actually give the police, even assuming that it is 100% accurate?
    At a certain time and place a gun was fired. Great? Who cares. That isn’t worth $1million/mo.
    If there are 3 people in the general location and time that a gun was fired, what has shotspotter done to help?

    Fortunately Chicago is getting rid of this finally. https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2024/02/22/shotspotter-contract-cost-mayor-brandon-johnson-cancel-extension-summer

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      And, it gives cops another excuse to overpolice Black and brown neighborhoods.

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      People usually call in shots fired. So all they’ve done is create an expensive device that maybe tells them a bit sooner than a concerned citizen.

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        This is where I disagree. I think a transparent, publicly run system to triangulate gunshots is actually a great idea. As long as the microphones are placed evenly throughout a city, they can instantly let police know where and when a gunshot happened.

        However, with no way to publicly verify the fairness of the a private system, there’s only one way this could go.

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          Doesn’t triangulation get fucked up by the presence of buildings? I don’t imagine these give much more precision, even in the ideal situation you describe.

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            I imagine that theoretically you could have algorithms or machine learning to calibrate this. Like make test sounds so you see how the sound diffuses and then filter it out.

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    Maybe I missed it but the article actually does not tell/show you where these secret locations are. A red dot on a map that doesn’t zoom in well enough is kinda useless.

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      https://0.jaegers.net/?966fe7e5869f728e#6dzfJbegSNHvhWEjrbBexiizB1cS4XTaJWhdpET8fKVU

      Article tells you it all… if you know where to go! (was just sitting in the JS)

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        This entry… { “lat”: “-9999”, “lon”: “-9999”, “metadata”: [ “WorcesterMA”, “” ] },

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        Document expires in 5 days (March 1st)!

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          I kept the default expiration.

          The data there is what was in the JS. I just pulled it out and ran it through a formatting tool so it can be consumed more easily by humans.

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      Whether the mics would pick it up would depend on if you use supersonic bullets. They would sense that they are shutting off for some reason though.

      Edit: If you shoot one but another is in range to pick it up then it would. This is starting to sound like a cs problem.

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        Can we zoom in on the sound and enhance it to triangulate the shooter’s IP address on the Unix mainframe?

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          Youll need to write a gooey in visual basic first

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            If two of us type at the same time on the same keyboard, we can work twice as fast!

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      Well, the bullet will travel faster than the sound of the shot so no

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        Depends, some loads are subsonic especially for suppressor use. I’m looking at you, 300BLK

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      Probably not, since there has to be some processing of the noise to identify what it is. TheBackyardScientist did a video somewhat similar to that, here: https://piped.video/watch?v=4WSQqDHK1Yw

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      That’s what suppressors are for

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    Muricans do everything but forbid guns

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