alt text: 18 of our 40 employees are located in the Philippines. Insanely competent, great judgement, and $5 per hour. If you run a small business and don’t have overseas help you’re at a disadvantage

  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
    179·
    7 months ago

    Wow it’s almost like capitalisms profit motive encourages businesses to exploit the less fortunate because not doing so puts your business at a disadvantage.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      9 months ago

      Explain how $5/hr. is exploiting a Pilipino. I’ll wait.

      EDIT: I note there are no explanations. My wife says it’s damned good pay back home. And for you economic geniuses, $5 there buys 2-4 times what it buys in America. $10-$20/hr. is exploitative? Beats American minimum wage by a long shot.

      Anyway, we’re retiring there. I’ll live like a king on the little I’ve saved. Y’all keep paying 2-4x for the same loaf of bread and bottle of milk.

      • Concetta
        6·
        9 months ago

        $5 an hour is an exploitative wage, it fundamentally does not matter the country we’re talking about. And there are no explanations because you gave 0 effort except for inviting an argument and no one was in the mood.

  • theangryseal@lemmy.world
    138·
    9 months ago

    My uncle visited the Philippines. When he came back he went on and on, “They’re poor, some don’t have running water and they got dirt for floors. They work so hard though, and they’re so loyal. I wish I could find people like that here in the states. Not people constantly asking for more. People who are happy with what they have and are loyal. You can’t find anyone loyal to anything but themselves here.”

    I nearly vomited hearing that shit.

    “Why won’t people just make me rich here without worrying about their piece of the pie. I don’t have enough luxury vehicles. My house isn’t a castle like it should be.” Was all I heard.

    It’s disgusting.

    • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
      48·
      9 months ago

      Absofuckinglutley. My God… “Only loyal to themselves.”

      Yeah dude… We got rid of slavery and no one exactly feels like volunteering to be a slave loyal worker especially when owners aren’t loyal to their employees!

      I should serve you and your best interests with vigor, but the next cheap labor opportunity you find you drop me like a bad habit…

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
      36·
      9 months ago

      Tell him to “be the change you want to see in the world”

      And then smash his floor so it becomes all dirt

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    102·
    9 months ago

    It’s wild that people celebrate folks sending jobs overseas as “smart business people”, but then demonize workers asking for wages to keep to with inflation as “greedy”.

      • Verat@sh.itjust.works
        71·
        9 months ago

        Minimum wage may not be the whole story, our minimum wage is $7.25 still and I dont think anyone believes that can be lived on here. The cost of living is more significant a measure of the pay’s fairness

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          54·
          9 months ago

          Cost of living is also much lower in The Philippines vs the US. A quick search says a 1br studio near Manila costs ~₱6,500/month, which is ~$115/month. The same thing costs about 10-20x that here in the US in a city.

          So $5/hr would be enough for a pretty nice lifestyle there, whereas it would be significantly below the poverty line here in the US.

        • youRFate@feddit.de
          19·
          9 months ago

          Right, he is paying about 4x minimum wage, which would be about $29/hr, that’s doable.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          9 months ago

          Funny note on that: Went to stay with a friend in Manhattan back in '91. Stunned by the prices I asked, “How does anyone survive on minimum wage?!”

          He laughed, “Man, nobody gets minimum wage here!”

          I’m in a poor county in Florida. 6 years ago, jobs could be found at the very bottom, no more.

      • Slotos@feddit.nl
        24·
        9 months ago

        Their labor creates expensive value in an expensive market. Share accordingly.

        “It’s a great pay where they are” argument is bullshit.

        • BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world
          13·
          9 months ago

          Exactly this. If they are making the same product as a local team that generates the same revenue, you’re just taking a bigger slice of their surplus value. In other words, exploiting them harder.

    • MissJinx@lemmy.world
      7·
      9 months ago

      It doesn’t. Since the dolar has usually a higher value americans pay little but when you convert the people there make ok money. It’s a win x win x lose (in this case the american people that need jobs too :/)

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
      6·
      9 months ago

      I think that companies shouldn’t be allowed to change wage/salary based on locale.

      But I have no idea how that could be enforced.

        • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
          2·
          9 months ago

          And how do you enforce the taxes?

          The problem i was alluding to was shell companies, subsidiaries, and all the existing popular tax avoiding strategies used by big companies (that’d also be used for avoiding counting those employees)

    • massive_bereavement@kbin.social
      33·
      9 months ago

      There was already a software developer that got two contracts with different companies, then “outsourced” his workloads to four guys overseas in secret.

      Iirc he spent a tenth of his salary on paying this people and did nothing but attend meetings, but the output was pretty bad so eventually they found out.

  • 667@kbin.social
    41·
    9 months ago

    The minimum wage in Philippines is ~$6 per day in the provincial regions (350Php). $5 per hour for 8 hours is damn well nearly a king’s ransom; equivalent to 2,200Php.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      9 months ago

      Thank you. ITT: Bunch of spoiled, outraged clueless people.

      Just ask my Pilipino wife if $5/hr. is good money back home. She stared at me for a beat, “Oh yeah! That is very good!”

      You can live damned well on $40/day. Her ex went over there and took her whole family out to dinner at a nice restaurant in Manila. 12 people, $50 including a generous tip. I make $81K/yr. and I couldn’t take half that many people out to eat on a day’s pay.

  • Klanky@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    40·
    9 months ago

    I automatically block anyone in my feed who has a sentence as their job title. They are always garbage.