- cross-posted to:
- unraid@reddthat.com
- cross-posted to:
- unraid@reddthat.com
Per the pricing plan, all licenses are forever licenses, but the lowest two tiers only offer 1 year of updates.
After that you can choose to renew, or continue with your current version.
If you do not like subscriptions, there still a lifetime plan, but at a higher pricepoint.
All existing plans are grandfathered in.
Full announcement form Lime: https://unraid.net/blog/pricing-change
Note: I have mixed emotions about this, but I’m seeing a lot of rage bait, and if we’re going to rage we might as well have our facts straight.
If you haven’t subbed already and are interested, check out the unraid community at !unraid@reddthat.com. We are already discussing it over there too.
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Ah, yes, the Autodesk style “not a subscription.”
Which lasts JUST long enough to get people to buy in on the lower levels before they pull the fucking rug.
Some of you guys are nahive.
The true and best open source stuff is not developed for profit. Once it is, its only a matter of time because, guess what, software development is never really profitable no matter how much you piss off your user base.
Don’t get me wrong: nothing bad in seeking profit, I do it myself too, I don’t live of thin air…
But true open source projects are not developed by seeking sustainability and profit out of it. I steer away from any such project because it’s doomed sooner or later and history is full of those projects.
Naive/naïve?
I searched for “nahive” just in case it was a word I hadn’t heard of but it doesn’t seem to be.
Yes, naïve :)
Did you know the world naïve is written backwards on your water bottle?
Thats a good one! But I am not French.
Software development is never profitable?
For it to be, you need a solid paying user base. Which is not the case at hand.
Very often also at.enterprise level the big money is in training, support and courses rather than in the software licenses per se.
Well duh, most software these days doesn’t have a direct license cost; you don’t pay for the Netflix app on your TV, you pay for Netflix the service.
(Okay, Netflix might not be the best example for sustainable software-based profit but you get the idea.)
Former sublime text user here. Eating popcorn and chuckling at “lifetime license”
I was about to fly off my handle when I heard this, and was about to send them an email to give them a good piece of my kind. But I chose to read first (don’t do this very often) and I found that this applies to new customers only. I think this is pretty fair. I’ve been using Unraid for 5 years now, and have absolutely no regrets. Anyone thinking on getting an unraid license, now is the time.
Yeah, there have been posts saying “They’re going subscription!!” and that’s why I made this one. They’re not going subscription. It makes me hella nervous that they might go subscription, but for now they’re not. I’m alarmed and watching, but my pitchfork is still in the shed. …for now.
Haha me too! I only use 6 drives but bought a pro key just to support. However, if I had to then pay more I would have felt wronged and would have joined the ESXi boys jumpimg on the proxmox train. Might ride that train someday just to learn it.
Proxmox is great but if you are happy on unraid then it does make a lot of things simple that may or may not (depending on what we’re talking about) be as easy on PVE. For example, PVE is not a storage solution first; sure you can do lots of storage stuff but you should not host shares directly off it for example (set up a container or VM to host the shares passed through from the storage pool on the host box).
You get more control and customization (which is where I was very happy; I have a cluster and my network shares are a service I manage within that) but if you are looking for a NAS-first solution for a single server, give something like TrueNAS Scale a good look before you take the plunge.
They’ve gotta make money somehow.
Having a bunch of intentionally out of date systems seems like a bad idea though.
I’m hoping security updates are always included, but new features could be gated by lifetime/subscription. But no word on that yet.
Yeah they don’t mention it at all which is a bit concerning.
At least they are being honest and keeping their word on the lifetime promise to those who bought those. How many other companies keep their word like that?
The water is not that hot!
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Proxmox, OpenMediaVault VM, Docker, Portainer, SnapRaid.
I have similar setup but without PROXMOX. I tried it but never saw the benefit. Using ZFS for bitrot protection.
While it’s a valid business decision, and while I can see that they’re trying to open more storage options for lower tiers, it does feel like a bait-and-switch to me. I’ve had so many people pushing this to me and I’ve been interested, but unable to justify the money for a license, because I’m poor and have severe health problems in the USA, which means unfortunately my money is better spent elsewhere.
So when I’m finally getting close to feeling like I might maybe have a spare $90 I could put towards a Plus license, it just feels lame that if I don’t come up with the money soon, I’ll be left paying for updates each year.
On the current Buy Now page it reads “Buy Once, Use for Life. No subscription. No hidden fees.”
This just feels like the first step of enshittification to me. While its great the low-level plans now have access to more storage devices, now it is a subscription if you want to keep security updates? So no subscription until they change their minds, essentially. I don’t know, it definitely makes me feel less inclined to invest my money in it. I never saw myself needing more than 12 storage devices, and a lifetime of updates seemed like a great deal. This seems like an average deal. I don’t even have close to 12 drives, so having “unlimited” storage devices seems… pointless to a casual user trying to set up a cheap NAS at home.
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I like what u/mosiacmango said.
Also, as someone new to self hosting, Linux, containers, networking and assembling computers, Unraid has made the steep learning curve easier to climb.
From my perspective, staring at Unraid’s Black Friday pricing, it was a no brainer when the alternatives seem to be truenas and maybe Synology. Truenas would’ve had a steeper learning curve, and Synology provides a cookie cutter experience and learning little.
A different perspective:
I run a syno box and I have been learning quite a bit; driven recently by docker and ngix, basically. It removes the daunting ‘everything in *nix is commands in a terminal’ and gives me this nice UI and bumpers so I don’t royally fuck myself (at least not without warnings and scary red icons telling me beforehand).
The hardware is meh and the upcharge is yikes but it’s kept my data safe while I screw around “in prod”; and when I do actually mess up, the backup system is easy enough to use and recovery saves my skin in just a few minutes (snapshots too, super convenient). That’s what I want - a touch of guidance (so those changes at 4am where I skim the docs and get a warning about a dangerous command making me double-check before execution), a simple UI for system things (backups, control panel, user account access…), but the ability to venture beyond their little garden. Training wheels to be fast, loose, a bit reckless - but still safe.
Funny enough, I was looking at unraid for a replacement/transition not even a week ago. But I figured that there wasn’t a compelling reason to switch (the website is barren for actual feature information), and figured I’ll upgrade to a new syno box in a couple years instead. This unraid news is concerning but at least I get to watch what happens from the outside looking in, see how it goes.
Simple to use NAS software. Has a unique raid model that allows adding as few or as many discs as you like of whatever size. You can start with 3 and add 1, 2 or more to the array, no issues. The parity model also lets you add as many parity discs as you like, as long as they are the same size as the largest disk.
Had early docker support as well, so it’s easy to spin up and integrate docker apps on the same server.
Lastly, they used to sell an excellent 8 bay standalone case. Think its been some years since they did.
They provide a simple, out of the box ,turnkey solution with a common UI to configure and manage the whole thing. Out of the box it covers most situations someone might need for a basic home server.
Down voted to negative… No counter points given… ok.
I don’t use unraid as it is proprietary software
Good now I don’t have to plan a huge data migration for a good long while
Not gonna lie, I thought it already worked like this.
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters ESXi VMWare virtual machine hypervisor NAS Network-Attached Storage Plex Brand of media server package ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity
4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 4 acronyms.
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