Saw this on mastodon and thought I’d share it here.

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Just today I had the lovely situation to get an ad break during two podcast episodes on Spotify mobile (Android).
    Changing the track does work but the ad break stays. BUT I could fast forward the ad.

    I pay fucking Family Prem. for that shit. WTF?!
    @The Haters: No, this was not a baked in ad by the podcast hoster but literally inserted by Spotify.

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      Yeah, Spotify made that deal with podcasts. They wanted them on their platform so bad, that they fucked every single paying customer they have.

      I have Spotify Premium Duo, and it’s the same thing on podcasts.

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      I switched to AntennaPod for podcasts because of this. It’s also just a better experience - it auto downloads new episodes and deletes them after playing.

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          I love Podcast Addict, but I don’t think you can set the sort per podcast. I want my entertainment ones to be oldest->newest and the reverse for things like news.

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        I was about to comment this! I learned about that app from a few Lemmy users recommending it, and it’s the real deal. Podcasts still generally have ads inserted in (which you can fast forward through), BUT I learned that you can set rules for your subscriptions which apply to each episode, like “skip the first 45s of each episode”. Go to subscriptions, tap the settings gear wheel, and find auto skip!

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        Is there anything like this for iOS? I usually stick to Overcast but haven’t really looked into switch apps for a while.

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        Spotify doesn’t do that?? That’s like feature #0 on a podcast app

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      No, this was not a baked in ad by the podcast hoster but literally inserted by Spotify.

      Just FYI, those two things don’t need to be exclusive. In this case Spotify is probably the one sponsoring the podcast, and so they inserted ads themselves, as opposed to the content creators including their sponsor ads. Many more successful podcasts are doing this now, and it seems like the ads get shoved in when there sometimes aren’t even breaks.

      Not saying it doesn’t suck, it absolutely does. Just pointing out that it’s a new trend. So it’ll probably get worse!

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Just FYI, those two things don’t need to be exclusive. In this case Spotify is probably the one sponsoring the podcast

        As this was the WAN show by LTT I doubt that. At least the sponsoring.

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          Yeah, unfortunately could just be (probably is) good ol’ enshittification then. In this case at least.

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        Spotify inserts their own ads into every podcast, regardless of whether you have premium or not. Then on top of that the podcasters themselves usually insert either ads or sponsorships into it too. I’ve seen countless podcasts do this now. In the worst cases that feels something like this: ad (by spotify) > introduction and depending on the podcaster potentially ads there too > barely any content > sponsorship > barely any content > ad (by spotify) > barely any content > podcast break and either sponsorship or ads by the podcaster > repeat for 2nd half

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          Genuine question - why does anyone listen to podcasts on Spotify? There have been and still are a TON of quality podcast apps that are 100% free and don’t do this bullshit. Like, I’m aware Spotify has podcasts but in my mind Spotify is music, podcast app is podcasts. It was that way for more than a decade. I just don’t get it TBH.

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            I briefly listened to podcasts on Spotify til I realised they inserted ads despite me being a paying member. I don’t really listen to podcasts at all anymore, but when I do I usually listen to YouTube ones since adblock + sponsorblock = zero ads and interruptions

            • Lemonparty@lemm.ee
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              Makes a lot more sense. I don’t listen to very many but when I do I use an app that isn’t Spotify. I don’t mind fast forwarding the commercials in the app. I have no desire to have Spotify try and algorithm my podcast tastes, especially not on top of injecting extra ads into them

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            Probably they just want to use the same app they’re using for listening to music. Although I also have them both. And I love AntennaPod more for podcasts, plus there’s no tracking, and it’s just a different experience overall.

            • Lemonparty@lemm.ee
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              Seems weird to me in a day and age where switching apps is literally just a swipe of a finger. People will jump from Instagram to tik tok to texting to emailing to Whatsapp without thinking about it at all, but a podcast app is a hurdle they don’t want to deal with. Even more bizarre because until very recently it was always like that, for the entire history of podcasts. It’s a shame too because podcast apps are so intuitive these days. Listening to podcasts on Spotify feels clunky by comparison.

              To each their own I guess, but I personally just don’t understand it.

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    This is great but is there something like this that let’s you upload a spotify playlist and buy that list drm free? I’m willing to pay if it means actual ownership

    *Oh wait I didn’t see what sub this was

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    While we are here, does anyone know of an open source implementation of a recommendation algorithm? I currently pay for YTM for my family and while it is the Bee’s Knees now, I can see the coming enshittification and would like to start planning ahead. Thanks!

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          I second this, very nice indeed!

          I also use their Picard software to check the downloaded album, then it updates the metadata automatically and places them in the appropriate folder structure.

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            It’s good for similar artist recommendations, but I typically prefer looking for music by similar track. There’s not a way to do this with brainz is there? I’m pretty happy with Tidal’s feature for this but always looking for others.

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              no indeed, I don’t think it’s that specific. I mainly browse the weekly exploration playlist, based on my listens, which either recommends other of my favorite songs that I hadn’t listened yet, or unknown songs that usually fit my styles. Enough for me to cut the subscriptions 🥳

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            I didn’t know that it could arrange the music too. That would have been really handy a few years ago >.<

            • Kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Same. Just finished organizing 8000 flacs the hard way which may not be a lot, but it sure felt like it… lol

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      The catch is its time consuming since it doesn’t support Playlist. There are similar tools that also support up to 100nsong Playlist.

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        Yeah, the tools I use for playlists grabs whatever is on YouTube. I haven’t found a mobile option to download full playlists from a not YouTube source.