Don’t forget Fascism based on religion.
Israel and America are trying to wrestle for that one, too
Israel’s got us beat by a lot, man. In the US we have grasps for religious power (some successful) but it doesn’t describe everyone in government
Go to Utah. The Mormon church has a lot more influence on politics, than people want to admit?
Ohh I’m very aware of SLC. I’m speaking of the country as a whole, though
Have you been to SLC? Mostly not Mormon. Meanwhile places like Provo are 98% LDS
I’ve never been to Utah period but I know that the LDS owns like 1/4 of SLC
It’s almost…Like when everyone in government is of the same religion, it’s similar to everyone in government being of no religion at all.
There sadly are even more countries that are completely under control of religious leaders. Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, … Vatican City (they even have something like their own military).
It’s insane how far the Vatican has fallen. It’s just so religious nowadays.
Bring back the Borgias! Now that was a Pope who knew how to party!
The Abraham Wars
They’re all already greased up and there’s an inflatable pool with green jello right there.
Or scams!
I think I missed the “mysticism and spirituality” period. Twenty years ago I knew India for cows, castes, and crap in the rivers.
You may be too young for Depak Chopra.
He specifically said he thought of it as being full of shit.
Never heard of ‘Eat, Pray, Love’?
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Skin whitening is not unlike tanning in the west, an indication of status/wealth. In India lighter skin shows you don’t need to work outside. In the west tan skin shows you can take vacations.
And in both cases people fake it with creams and tanning salons. And it becomes so entrenched people don’t realize why they are actually doing it. Just like makeup and clothing choices.
Yes, there are problematic racial undertones…and in general is definitely fucked up…but I think it’s more complicated than just a race thing. I mean, people in the West are literally exposing themselves to cancer causing UV to fake the look of having recently taken a trip to Hawaii or whatever, which is also kinda fucked up.
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Your take away from what I wrote was that I think people should never expose themselves to the sun/UV? The benefits of moderate UV exposure are completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
I just explained how they are comparable and really don’t know what else to tell you. Maybe someone else can give it a go.
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I’m not in any way shape or form doing that. This is abundantly clear from what I wrote.
I was only comparing cosmetic skin whitening to cosmetic skin darkening, since they are completely comparable and I have already explained how.
But the natural production of pigment in response to sunlight isn’t nearly comparable to chemically changing tones or caking on makeup to hide your ethnicity.
My asian “whitening creams” are called “brightening creams” in the West. They remove redness. They don’t chemically alter your ethnicity.
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You sound like an a-hole. How does it feel to be bluntly communicated with?
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I think you’re missing the point.
Some cultures find tanned skin to be beautiful, others find light skin to be beautiful.
In either case, wealthier people can achieve either darker or lighter skin by spending more or less time in the sun.
Poorer people who’s length of exposure to the sun is a function of their work, can emulate lighter or darker skin with various lotions and potions.
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You sound like a real idiot.
People will perceive beauty according to societal and cultural norms established over millennia.
You can’t tell someone what they ought to find beautiful.
It’s not racist, given that we’re taking about variations within a single race, not comparisons between races.
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Imposing your own ideas on what other cultures ought to feel is the height of arrogance.
Similarly, it’s incredibly arrogant to presume that your own “enlightened” attitudes will be more prevalent in the future.
Pretty sure lighter complexion in non-white countries is status symbol in the same way tanning is among white Westerners. You don’t need to work outside means you are affluent enough not to do so. Getting tanned means you are also affluent enough to go on holidays abroad to somewhere exotic.
Before the European colonisation in non-white majority countries, light skin has always been seen as status symbol. The racial aspect came later upon Western colonialism.
Yes, that’s exactly what I said.
In the west tan skin shows you can take vacations.
What? I see a dude with a tan in the middle of winter and I automatically think “he spends way to much time in tanning booths” and “that’s a lot of skin damage”. I never once thought “that guy can afford vacations”. If that’s the effect they’re going for they need better PR.
On the bright side, you need a tech tutorial, they’ve got your back.
Yeah, but it’s often in the form of a YouTube video with narration that’s not always so easy to understand. I miss written tutorials, but most of the good ones I find these days tend to come from Central/Eastern European forum posts.
Don’t forget scammers!
It’s scammers all the way down.
Germany f*d up so bad we’re still using them as a meme after most of a century. Never go full Germany.
I guess Germany after the 30’s (and maybe even after 1919), France after the whole Revolution and Napoleon thing, the UK after voting to KEKW their economy, Norway after being ruled by Sweden… The list probably goes on
Which french revolution? ;) There’s lots of people who saw and still see the whole french revolution thing as a net positive. The UK has never had a good proper revolution and it shows.
Napoleon did a lot of things, but those bad things were in line with the absolutist rulers from before the revolution, he just happened to be more successful at it. But he also did many good things during his rule. Fe, the Napoleonic code was hugely influential worldwide and a major change for the good. 2 centuries later it doesn’t hold up as well in the countries that still use the same justice system, but for it’s time, it was really good. Overall, I’d say Napoleon still has a stellar reputation, unlike India.
How was Norway worse after they last gained independence from Sweden?
never had a good proper revolution
Are you forgetting or discounting the English Revolution and Glorious Revolution?
I’m discounting that one yes. The powerful politicians that came out on top (all who were already upper class and power brokers beforehand), called it a revolution, but there was no class/societal upheaval, redistribution of wealth/land or anything else like happened in the many popular revolutions in Paris. It was just a change of government with some help from a foreign power at the end. A forced change of government or coup d’etat can alo be called a revolution, but it’s pretty obvious that it’s not the same thing as fe the 1789 revolution in Paris.
I’ll refine my previous statement: what the UK needs is a good proper popular revolution.
A lot of good came out of it in the end, but I doubt the French felt great after the battle at Waterloo and the resulting peace treaty
For France that was a great peace treaty, way better than what many French people would have expected, Talleyrand had worked wonders. After Waterloo there were many who would have wanted a complete dismemberment of France, but instead the pre Waterloo negotiations were followed and a relatively strong state was created, with all the territorial gains of Louis 14 left intact.
That peace was also far better for French people than Napoleon’s endless large scale wars of the prior 15 years. It’s that massive death toll that we should blame Napoleon for, not the treaty of Vienna. And after a bit of a respite, the french did kick out the Bourbons again, so that peace did work out ok for France. It was easily a far better peace than the “peace” of Versailles after WW1.
Yeah I guess you’re right that it came out about as well as it possibly could for France. I still feel there was a significant bit of humiliation at play for the great power that France was at the time, but then again it took a coalition to get there and this was an army of a country torn between monarchists and republicans.
The UK had to murder his king to get a parliament though :D and tbh the french revolution was a great moment, but also a hugely violent one, and the people did not prevail. The liberals did.
It wasn’t murder though, murder implies criminal wrong doing.
Isn’t regicide against the law? :D
How did Norway’s “PR” fall after independence?
That just touches on leadership issues, not the people. So I don’t think it is valid in this context.
I dunno I think Nazi Germany says a lot about everyone that was there I reckon.
It’s still a leadership issue and not a people issue. I can see why someone would want to relate the two, but it’s not a just comparison on this case.
This is insanely relevant to me right now. I left India in 2004 and I am there right now for my cousins wedding. I legit hate it everywhere I look. Love my family, but idk if I want to come back.
Hello unkill
4chan is gonna know the world through the perspective of an average 4chan user.
Rapists and shit being India’s image is far, far from being exclusive to anons on 4chan…
I unfortunately have to agree on the rapists front because of the impotent fucks sitting in the parliament sucking each other on religion, but the shitting part has gotten considerably better in my region and in India overall, though.
It may have gotten better but the image is going to take quite some time to be changed, unfortunately
It’s good that the conditions become better, though
11% still seems really high. In a crowd of 100 people, 11 are going to be pooping in front of you.
It’s relative improvement, it might seem really high to people in the west but for us it’s been quite a difference.
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Also the land of abhorrent javascript horrors.
Never forget the Designated Shitting Streets
Thought to myself “San Francisco isnt a country”
mysticism and spirituality
You mean scammers like Sadhguru and Deepak Chopra?
America has been full of New Thought/LoA grifters like these too: Neville Goddard, Napoleon Hill, Joseph Murphy, to name a few.
To be frank, google’s reputation fall pretty significantly in the last 25 years.
Not a country yet
Google had a revenue of 305.6 billion dollars in 2023.
That’s more than the GDP of Finland, the 48th largest economy in the world.
Yeah but Google is in Mountain View, not San Francisco!
Don’tbe evil.
So we switched from exotic fetichizing orientalism toward casual racism? Sounds like two pieces of the same coin.
Young ignorant dumb boomer mentality to old racist boomer bullshit
