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Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) came in fifth place in a straw poll of voters in the district where the controversial congresswoman recently relocated and is trying to win reelection to the House.
Boebert, who was first elected to represent Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District in 2020, announced last month she would switch districts and instead run for reelection this year in the 4th District, after its House member, Rep. Ken Buck ®, decided to retire from Congress.
The new district for Boebert would likely give her a significantly better chance at reelection if she wins the Republican nomination. She currently represents a swing district, and Boebert had seemed likely before her switch to face off a second time against Democrat Adam Frisch, whom she defeated in 2022 by fewer than 600 votes.
The 4th District, meanwhile, is a solidly Republican district that has elected a Democratic House member only once in the past 50 years.
But the results of the straw poll Thursday, which followed the first debate among GOP candidates running for that district, indicates Boebert may have an uphill battle.
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Boebert is ‘exhibit A’ that members of Congress should be required to pass a minimum standardized test of basic civics knowledge prior to candidacy.
Such a test would have undoubtedly prevented Boebert, Greene, Tuberville, and other flotsam/ jetsam non-serious “legislators” from their embarrassing placement.
Yeah it’s tempting to be like “oh it could be a simple test, like name the three branches of government”. But the right wing (and maybe a few assholes from other parts of the spectrum) would inevitably push it towards Jim crow era voting tests.
On the other hand, what if we set these up as a honey pot? Anyone who tries to sabotage the voting test gets disappeared? No, no, that would be ruined too.
What if it was the same test we give people who are applying for citizenship?
That might have the side effect of making citizenship easier to get, which is probably a net positive.
Exactly my thoughts.
Just remember that anytime you think of something to help people, the first thought conservatives have is “how can I use this to hurt my enemies”
in fairness, that’s the first thought a conservative has upon seeing anything
Enemies being literally everyone else on the planet.
Fun fact: Senator Tommy Tuberville failed to name the 3 branches of the US Government he is part of.
Good times.
OP film yourself taking this test and post the results for us to grade. You have ten minutes, you need a perfect score to pass. This is a very real poll test given to people in Louisiana (at the discretion of poll workers, of course) to determine whether they were allowed to vote.
Sure— but your suggestion is red herringly tangential as it pertains to A CANDIDATE holding office in Congress.
I am not running for office.
Our representatives, however, should (at the bare minimum) understand how government works in my opinion— which was the basis of my post.
my issue isn’t tangential. everyone has the right to vote, and to run for office, absent any criminal history. there’s a reason it’s unconstitutional to do this to voters. I agree with you that candidates should understand how government works, but a test like this absolutely not the way to determine who can and cannot run for office. You know that one politician? That one asshole that you just cannot stand, you dislike them personally, disagree with everything they stand for and think they’re just morally bankrupt? Whatever law you put in place, them or someone even worse than they are will be in charge of enforcing one day.
You’re continuing to conflate two arguments. I am exclusively speaking about candidates.
what I’m saying is that people will do the same thing to pervert the intention of this whether you use it to limit voting rights or who can run for office. they’ll make it an impossible test, they’ll be in charge of who has to take it, and they’ll use it to exclude candidates they dislike. the poll tests are an example of this happening already. it will absolutely also happen if you force candidates to pass a test.
^ NAILED it.
OP: Doesn’t know American history, wants civics literacy test for politicians.
That’s like being mad that my doctor doesn’t have to take a test to be a doctor and then someone saying I should take this test to be a doctor.
I don’t wanna be a doctor but I hope my doctor has the creds to know what the fuck they’re talking about.
Your point is dumb but I still see the problem with requiring politicians to take a test. Lots of potential corruption.
Just because something bad was done in the past doesn’t mean something superficially similar can’t ever be a good idea.
Line maybe a test that’s made in bad faith explicitly to disenfranchise black people isn’t representative of the merits of tests in general. Maybe the problem all don’t want tests, but instead it was having a system completely controlled by the most vile racist people that could be found.
Of course first we’d have to get rid of the current crop of vile racists in charge of most states. It would be more of a protective measure to put in place if the good guys ever gain control.
one of the fundamental problems of legislation is that, whatever law you put into place, eventually the most horrible asshole you can imagine will be in charge of implementing and enforcing it. if you make it so that you need to pass a test in order to run for office, look forward to the opposition party doing their best to game those tests to selectively disqualify their opponents. it’s inevitable in a competitive system like this because people who don’t take every advantage tend to lose to people who do.
Just broadly speaking, I’m extremely skeptical of arguments that we can’t do X because it could be or has been abused, because as you’ve pointed out, everything can be abused with sufficiently bad people running it. Having a system that’s not open to abuse simply isn’t an option. If we can’t keep bad people out of power, we’re just fucked, so there’s no point in worrying about systems that will be abused by the bad guys, because if it gets to that point, you’ve already lost, and all your safeguards against abuse will be swept away anyway. At best, you can slow down the bad guys while they’re consolidating their power and maybe give time for some kind of counterattack.
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We don’t even have to make a new test. Just hold them to the same standard we hold new immigrants to.
But it shouldn’t take a test to prevent such candidates. You would think that voters would not vote for someone like that.
It turns out too many voters are morons to reject even the most obviously unqualified, criminal, treasonous candidates.
While I think a civics test would be great for a publicly available information for voters to decide, it should not disqualify someone from running for office or voting for office.
Maybe we just need better citizen education.
She needs to win over voters one HJ at a time
These guys figured out a more efficient method:
What if I did middle out?
My favorite part was they’re still discussing it and say Richard’s been in there for hours, meaning they’ve been occupied for hours optimizing. 😂
Honestly, that’s what makes it so relatable to real IT work.
Yeah, they’re so easily distractible during any scene that they’re doing work (unless adderal is in the mix). Then they go off on these weird tangents for far too long. One of my favorite themes in the show.
What do I recognize this picture from? Whatever it is I want to rewatch because I remember it being funny but can’t place it.
Silicon Valley. Great show, gotta love Mike Judge.
That’s a lot of tickets to Beetlejuice
“So, how do we do this? Do I just pay you here or after…”
“Nah, you schedule it online using Ticketmaster. We’ll start with a little vaping for foreplay and should be done by intermission.”
“Okaaaaayyyyy…”
“Hey, you’re not a cross-dressing democrat are you? I have to ask cuz I had a bad experience once and my pimp got mad at me.”
She could probably even do two at a time if she tried really hard.
I could see that changing a few votes, at least.
As a resident of the district this asshat currently represents, I was disappointed that I wouldn’t be able to to vote her out of office this year. Sounds like that won’t be an issue for the 4th either. Womp fucking womp you piece of shit traitor.
As a resident of her new district I will be profoundly relieved if my neighbors prove to be slightly less nutty than they appear. I’m sure I won’t be super-excited about whoever they come up with, but I would appreciate being spared this person. 😂
I won’t even fool myself that we could ever elect a democrat in CD4. We’ll be lucky to scrounge up a candidate at all.
I don’t know who the competition is but I hope it’s not one of those “she’s not crazy and racist enough” situations
Most likely though.
Same here. It’s depressing being surrounded by people that consistently vote against their best interests.
Vote in the primary.
For sure. I’m switching to unaffiliated so I can.
Now if only Marge could follow her…
I saw Bobert finishes and I was like well “What new musical came to Colorado?”.
Also…what about her date? Did they finish?
She only lets them finish in the back
I’m very much looking forward to not ever having to pay attention to her again.
I was going to say like Sarah Palin but apparently she’s still kicking around trying to fill vacant seats.
She’s just not blowing the right people
She’s more of a hands-on kinda person.
Well if she puts that mouth to use and uses both hands, she could up her efficiency in conversion possibly.
How on earth do you lose on a platform of blowing people in a theatre? She should be queen of the universe by now.
I read the headline as “Boebart finishes fifth grade”. My reaction was “That’s nice, dear.” in a very condescending manner.
Oh no. Now who will be in charge of heavy petting during congressional hearings
and the daily dick pick.
or was that the other howler monkey?
I do get them mixed up a lot.
Okay, Riker is back… but which Riker?
[actual footage from Colorado’s 4th district]
Well, Boebert is the Q candidate
Fuck this one got me. Bravo.
Hope she finally fucking loses.
The 3rd district in Colorado is not a swing district. It became a swing district because of Boebert. It was pretty red before she showed up.
Cool. Send her to Florida
It became a swinger district because of Boebert
I think you meant this ^
That Republican lean gets smaller and smaller every election though. Hell they voted for the Democratic governor last election. I think Democrats can be competitive here. Bobert has definitely made that more possible though.
We also redrew the districts fairly recently, which might have made it more competitive.
HAHAHAHA, get fucked, dime-store Baronness, you fash trash.
looks like it’s back to giving handjobs in public
she’ll probably get a job on fox news or OAN
She never stopped.
Came here to say the same.
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH
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