Shame the damage they did won’t go with them.
And they’re not done yet! It’s also a shame they’ll probably waste the money they’ve accumulated on the worst possible things and people on the way out (fueling the dumpster fire).
Just How stupid does one have to be to think all their woes exist with only one generation? There are far bigger monsters alive today in current younger generations (many in millennial) that are far more destructive to our lives and the earth. They’ve seen more $$$ than any boomer and will laugh at you while you live out of a garbage can.
And you’d still probably be posting stupid memes like this acting completely oblivious to the burning hell around you.
Ok boomer
OK, person I just blocked.
K incel.
Incel? Oh no! My husband is going to be devastated by this news
K.
The boomers also have high levels of wealth inequality
It’s Lemmy. The hive mind demands sacrifices. And reason is one of the most valuable.
They don’t vote. Boomers always vote.
So stop whining and vote! Remember: You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.
Or write in someone you believe would actually be good at the job. Then you don’t have to vote for someone you believe to be unqualified.
…as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?
Right?
…as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?
Right?
That’s only true if everyone believes that, a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Would really be fantastic to see just once, one time, everyone interconnects on social media and agrees to vote on a third party, as an experiment if nothing else, to finally prove/disprove that theory.
Funny enough these newer generations have this communicative interconnectivity of the Internet available to them, that previous generations didn’t have, but they don’t seem to use it, instead they just share mene pics/vids, etc.
Could you imagine the political earthquake though if a third party actually won? Would be glorious to see.
The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties, it’s that our voting system encourages party consolidation rather than cooperation. That only gets more true the higher in the government you go.
The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties,
That’s not true. People don’t vote for third party because of the self-fulfilling prophecy, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want it. They also want ranked-choice voting.
I would advocate to put that self-fulfilling prophecy to the test, even if just as an experiment one time.
Well if you write in someone who is “apocalyptically bad” that one is definitely on you.
Choice 1: third party you prefer Choice 2: mainstream party you prefer Choice 3: mainstream party you don’t prefer that gives off apocalyptic vibes
This is what I was trying to describe. It’s the same old US third party voting trap as always.
You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.
Unless you run for office yourself.
Then you’ll be the one getting called the lesser of two evils
Then you’ll be the one getting called the leader of two evils
It’s the violence inherited in the system. (And yes, that’s a Gen-X timeframe related quote (in a deep meta ironic sort of way)).
AKA, what goes around, comes around.
But still, it’s worth doing. Better to solve your own problems, versus waiting for somebody else to solve them for you.
Click on the site so that your dumbass can see there is a clock for literally every generarion up until the Greatest
Gentle reminder that the whole generations thing is made up.
But true that many of these folks and older hold high positions of power, which is probably the cause for the clock.
Crazy that you’re the only person I’ve found in the thread that realizes this. Generational theory largely accepts that the concept of monolithic generations is reductive. Yes, people born in and around the same time can have shared cultural experiences, but the idea that those are what purely shape you ideologically or that you behave as a component of a monolith are ludicrous. And then there’s subgenerations, microgenerations, etc. Just look at the sociological research of Karl Mannheim for a very complex discussion on the topic.
Them’s a whole bunch of fancy words for saying “don’t generalize.”
Generalizing is fine and a useful tool in certain situations. In others, it’s not, and can in fact be very harmful. It’s also sometimes good to explain why you support one versus the other in a particular scenario. Y’know…because that’s how conversations work.
I found two more! Get em, boys.
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Keanu reeves is so close to and so engrained in gen x culture that I think it’s unfair to label him a boomer
Honorary Xner
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What kind of psycopath counts generation death as a good thing. All interesting humans dead and you take it as an achievement.
Stop crying on the past. Stop blaming past on generations. Start learning from past generation mistakes, and thank them for having you.
Because as a new generation we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, who knows if more or less than the past generations. And we shouldn’t be blamed in the future.
Blaming the past generations and not learning from them is a childish response. Start doing something productive and useful to society, blaming is not helping.
Stop having tantrums and grow up. And thank you have past generations otherwise you would have to create all we have now from scratch.
It’s like saying “Newton dumb” because his work is old and it doesn’t work correctly for all physical frames, not like Einstein his work is much better. Both are as good because they lived at different times with different technology, knowledge, society, etc.
This feels like explaining basic life knowledge to a 3 year old tbh.
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Just the fact that this site exists is a testament to people without empathy.
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Yeah, people aren’t just numbers. Statistics are fine. A “death clock” and a website basically celebrating people dying is not
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When I saw the post I thought this was some statistics sub, but then I read the comments. The comments made me write this.
This is a neutral post and it isn’t anti-boomer per se.
It’s a little disingenuous to say that though .
How is presented to us, in this Lemmy post, isn’t really neutral though, it leans towards one point of view.
Yeah, not like boomers blame millenials or gen Z for everything. Oh wait.
So you think Doubling down somehow erases the problem. It totally doesn’t put you at their level, right? Or did you think everyone is just so dumb they can’t see your stupid thrown into the ring too?
Who’s level?
I’m guessing no “boomer” ever told you that bit about two wrongs?
No, they don’t. They blamed the silent gen for ecological destruction, social inequality, and war. They also, like every generation back to australopithecus blamed their elders and thought the younger generation was spoiled & had shorter attention spans.
Don’t foolishly attribute a universal human flaw to a single group of people.
Yeah, not like boomers blame millenials or gen Z for everything. Oh wait.
Maybe we should stop dividing up into age tribes and attacking each other?
The problems we face affect every age in the same way.
Ok, Boomer.
OK, person I just blocked.
Kiddies who can’t think beyond the “us vs them” mentality but also think that all old people are bad, like that’s not as insane a generalisation as saying “all people of X race/sexuality/whatever are bad”. Human brains love trying to put everything in categories and labels, especially other humans.
also think that all old people are bad
Not many people actually believe this. It’s more that statistically it’s better for the country as more old people die. My boomer parents are progressive, but the generation by and large is holding us back. Of course the electoral college is part of the problem as well.
Ok so when that generation is dead, how does that fix the musk, Bezos, chesky, Zuckerberg problem exactly? We’re still stuck with them. They are still doing far more damage.
With more progressive voting comes more chances at holding billionaires accountable. Boomers vote GOP who gives tax breaks to the rich.
And yet somehow the younger generations are powerless to stop the evil boomers when they have the political numerical superiority to make the changes they want now…
Get out and vote. Run for office - local politics is where you start - get involved. Be that change.
******And always remember that one day YOU will become the hated generation that is standing in the way of progress.
Get out and vote. Run for office - local politics is where you start - get involved. Be that change.
It really just comes down to this.
But it takes more effort to do so, than comment on an Internet forum.
I have served in local politics and public safety but my time is long past. It’s well past time the next generations start to run things and I’m tired of waiting.
Boomers vote GOP who gives tax breaks to the rich.
Generalizations 4TW! /s
We’re not all from the USA here, remember!
This isn’t far from the logic put forth in Kill The Poor by the Dead Kennedys. https://genius.com/Dead-kennedys-kill-the-poor-lyrics
Every generation can see right from wrong. The problem is we’re not all agreeing on what is right and what is wrong.
Speaking of how we categorize …Rememberer how a bunch of idiots tried to categorize Covid as if it was china to blame and relating it to diet of eating bats meanwhile there’s white dudes in North America chowing down on venison infested with prions pretending mad cow isn’t a thing. No one should be pointing fingers.
Relevance? I don’t think that activity was limited to any particular “generation”.
It isn’t meant to. It is tangentially related to how we blame groups.
What kind of psycopath counts generation death as a good thing. All interesting humans dead and you take it as an achievement.
It needs 3 generations after a traumatic incident to get the negative consequences out of the population.
Musk, Zuckerberg, bezos, chesky won’t be negative consequences going anywhere with boomers dying. You can’t keep blaming them for what current generations are doing that is far worse.
Surprised your comment has positive upvotes because this thread has turned into /FuckBoomers.
Boomers aren’t the problem.
Because as a new generation we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, who knows if more or less than the past generations.
musk, Zuckerberg, Chesky, bezos are but a few who aren’t even boomers and have done probably far more destruction to society with their attainment of wealth.
We’re gonna see this current generation posting this usVSthem bullshit explain all that away to the future generation when their kids look into their online memes like this one about how ‘they knew better than boomers enough to criticize’
“Tell me about how you stood by Greta thunberg and didn’t just sit on your ass posting drivel on your iPhone while you rented Airbnb and got half your things off of Amazon. Did you vote in trump? Tell me how did he become president again?”
Part of me thinks this generation posting this generation meme drek is a poor attempt to quickly burry this giant steaming pile of poo.
You should click on the link so that you realize that you are in fact a retard, as there is a clock for every generation with currently living members
It’s more about the comments around this post. Idk what were the intentions when OP posted this. But the comments are pretty clear. Stuff like “Death to all boomers”, " when boomers dead all good", etc.
But yeah you definitely seem a cool guy to hang with, calling retard to everybody that thinks different or doesn’t agree with some ways of dealing with life.
Firstly, I genuinely don’t care what you or anyone else thinks of me because you are not someone I have ever met and we will very likely never speak again outside of this board. That being said, I do care about the feelings of others when it comes to how they feel emotionally, and my post was not meant to be deep cutting but rather a light jab. I realize that words online are much more difficult to convey the exact meaning of because you cannot tie emotion to them in a way that other people will pick up on.
Second, your point was made invalid when you stated that this was specifically something made for boomers, which if you would have went and clicked on the link, would have realized is not the case.
Three, you literally did the exact same thing! You compared their intelligence to that of a three year old! You didn’t make your comment about the othsr comments, you made it about the content of the post, that is incredibly clear.
Now do I think you are a human who is actually mentally handicapped? Of course not, but in that particular moment you were definitely favoring it, and that’s totally fine, the intention of my comment was not to try and hurt your feelings, but rather to point out your mistake so that you and others can learn that this is not just some calendar made to shit on boomers and celebrate the death of them (which becomes a harder ask as healthcare becomes even better).
OK boomer
(Please block me shitheads)
OK, blocked person.
The problem isnt going to end with them. My right wing friends are completely indoctrinated by their boomer parents. And getting louder and louder about it.
They’ll be outnumbered after the boomers are gone. They’ll either have to adapt, hide back in the shadows, or go full extremist.
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.
I would just kindly tell them to shut the fuck up
Interesting to look at, numbers wise… but it makes me think of the time I have left with my parents. I’m calling them tomorrow!
now*
WTF are Keanu Reeves and Madonna doing there 😃
Madonna - Born 1958
Keanu - Born 1964 so boomer of the cutoff year.
It’s not my countdown clock, but all the images they chose are of the baby boomer generation, chronologically.
I get that I just thought its supposed to be dead by boomers up there
Patience, grasshopper.
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Putting Keanu next to dead Boomers is like when Micheal Scott announced he hit Meredith and the doctors did all they could.
Why would you phrase it like that?!
Who the fuck put keeanu in there?
Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.
No, as long as he stays below 50 he’ll be fine.
Yeah, but he’s not dead yet like the picture implies
Neither is Madonna. Those aren’t pictures of dead boomers, just famous ones.
That’s…not even close to a Boomer. WW2 ended 20 years earlier lol.
I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…
Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…
Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…
You’re wrong chronologically, but you’re right based on how those labels are used to judge people’s social values.
So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?
So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?
Fuck if I know, that’s not what I’m speaking about.
You don’t pop out of your mother’s womb already programmed to have an understanding of the socieity that you live in. You learn as you go from external sources (parents, family, society) and you act a certain way at each milestone of your life (child, young teenager, older teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, senior).
When we all judge someone by applying a generation label its done based on how they act/opine, and not the chronological date that they entered the World. There’s a lag/delay from when a person starts to exist on this Earth to the time they form a personality and express said personality.
I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…
I get where they’re coming from.
The starting point is normally defined at the time you came out of your mother’s womb, but it really shouldn’t be.
It should be started at the point where you first enter society as a child, and start learning your generation’s societal values.
Basically, when you started kindergarten, or Elementary School.
They did that for Gen Z, where it’s essentially the dividing line between people who were more or less cognizant when 9/11 happened, and those who weren’t.
Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.
The identifier should be started at the age you entered society, and not the age you came out of your mother’s womb.
You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.
You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.
That doesn’t work. Technically I’m a Boomer, but I act and think completely like a Gen-Xer.
In fact growing up I used to give Boomers crap myself, until I got more wise. They acted completely different from me, based on the times they grew up in.
I didn’t come up with the age range, but it’s been well established for a while now. Someone else told me about “Generation Jones”, which is basically just the younger half of the Boomer generation I guess. I feel like that’s splitting hairs, but who knows, maybe it makes some sort of sense to you?
Keanu is eternal.
Someone who can’t count. Meaning this list is completely useless.
He didn’t leave the matrix yet?
I love how many people are going on about how one generation isn’t the cause of all our problems. I agree. Neither the post nor the website say anything good nor bad about any generation, just that it’s -mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.
The young hate the old for having more than them.
The old hate the young for having more time left.
No, Boomers are hated for putting our civilization on the path to collapse.
No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history
No other age cohort has been responsible for caring for the earth for the time they were adults and done such a horrific job. In the US, the cherry on top is also that this generation kicked everything their parents generation fought for into the dirt, including most of the social safety net, because of a bunch of dumb conservative rhetoric.
I think it is pretty fair as far as generalizations go, though of course it is a generalization. Boomers get all defensive with the “but you shouldn’t just blame a whole generation!” even though blaming millennials seems to be a major policy point for a lot of boomers… but they just don’t get it. The boomer generation will be remembered for literally thousands of years for being the generation that was adults in power when climate change was pushed into an unstoppable momentum, biodiversity catastrophically crashed, and the priceless gift of earth that has been handed down to every generation was dealt a massive amount of damage that will reverberate for again, literally thousands of years at the minimum.
Boomers think I am attacking them in an us vs. them mentality, it is unfortunately so much bigger than a petty fight between generations though. Boomers aren’t just another generation that will be largely forgotten a century or two from now, and it is a massive understatement to say the time they were stewards of the earth will not be remembered kindly by future generations.
This is precisely the thing I’ve noticed recently. You make a statement like yours and suddenly people start crying about not generalizing or how there’s really no such thing as generations and whatever other nonsense. Frankly, I don’t think that too many people over the age of 50 are on Lemmy yet so I think that there are some people who just want to be contrary taking the chance to.
It must be weird judging a whole generation based only on what you know from learning about via social media.
Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?
Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there, but social media is also unarguably a massive source of education for people on a dizzying array of topics. Look at how silly but genuine ADHD tiktok or instagram accounts have massively raised awareness about ADHD for the better as only one example. Look at /r/ADHD as a huge source of good information and discussion for people with ADHD as another. The existence of social media has irrevocably raised the voices of the oppressed in a way TV and newspapers aren’t really interested in doing except for the odd anomaly that gets through the filter of the rich.
sigh whatever…
Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?
Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there
You answered your own question.
For the record, I’m distinguishing between “Social Media” and “the Internet”. The former is for entertainment, and the latter is for learning/knowledge.
No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history
You talking about Boomers, or Gen-Xers?
Millenials would chime in on some hate I think.
mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.
I do wonder about the accuracy of that though. It’s not like the website owner went through every death certificate ASAIK.
That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.
That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.
Yeah sure, I’m aware of how statistics work. I’m just not confident that they are interpreting the statistics correctly.
My mother is pre-Boomer (born soon after the U.S. entered the war) and has been incredibly progressive her entire life. She has never voted for a Republican. She marched for civil rights. She wanted me to know that women and men are equal and that color and religion and ethnicity should not make you dislike someone. She taught me about sex (appropriately) when I asked about it at 3 or 4 years old rather than shielding me from it. My brother and I both have (had in my case, but that’s another story) gay best friends who were also best man at both of our weddings. She always welcomed them even though my brother and his friend became friends in the mid-1980s. I remember asking my mother what she would do if I was gay and she said she would love me no matter what I was. I don’t specifically know her politics, but my dad, born even earlier (1931) was mostly the same way. He definitely had his prejudices- although he would deny it- and he was a lot more sexist than he thought he was, but he was also an outspoken socialist until the dementia got too bad for him to be outspoken about it. One of the last things I was able to tell him before he was too far gone to understand was that Bernie was running for president.
I have certainly had a lot of issues with Boomers and people older than them, but it is far from universal, but I am really proud of my parents for always being progressive.
I am really proud of my parents for always being progressive.
I hate the burst your bubble, but they weren’t being progressive, they were being 80’s liberals. Today’s progressives are a different thing.
(BTW, your comment was a good read.)
I’m what world is this kind of pedantry useful?
I’m what world is this kind of pedantry useful?
In what world is this kind of verbal policing useful?
No need to be hostile.
Concerning your question, at the very least, my world. But I suspect most people can recognize a conversation comment about how different generations see things and identify them, for its own sake. You know, Lemmy is about conversations about subjects.
Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.
Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.
I was speaking of the word used as an identifier/label, ‘progressive’, vs ‘liberal’, and not the content of what was being said, at all. No disrespect was meant towards the comment, just a tongue-and-cheeck attempt at discussing the labels. As I mentioned before, concerning the content of your comment …
(BTW, your comment was a good read.)
When it comes to my comment discussing labels, today’s ‘liberal’ is considered a ‘centrist’ by today’s younger generations (which pisses me off to no end, but that’s another discussion for another time), and what they think of as liberal they call progressive, hence my comment.
And for the record (not trying to measure dicks here, but only because you quoted your dads history) I’m a Gen-Xer who was born/raised in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles in the 70’s/80’s, a perverbial “Valley Dude”, and lived ‘in the capital of Liberalism’ the vast majority of my life. Liberalism of that day is not what Progressivism is today. I feel that I could be considered a ‘subject expert’ in a court case when it came to Liberals and Liberalism of that time.
I find this insanely interesting. I hope someone does this for us Xers but I have a feeling that everyone will forget about us.
And with this, I’m also interested in the rate of change here. Are boomers dying faster, slower, steady rate?
https://incendar.com/generation_x_deathclock.php
They got you!
Fuck that website, it lists abortions as deaths LMAO
Oof, does it a least list miscarriages too? Not that we’d know the actual number
It would be very surprising if the rate was steady. Boomers are ages 59 to 77 today. The ones who have died have been on the younger side, but it won’t be long until most are within a standard deviation for average lifespan.
Also, there weren’t the same number of boomers born every year. In fact, 1946 had a spike of them, and the rate started falling off each of the last seven years or so of the range. So we started with more older boomers than younger boomers.
As an interesting side note: I have heard multiple times that Gen X is the Trumpiest and most conservative leaning generation, even more than Boomers or Silver. I find it plausible. The silver generation has old progressive labor movement diehards, and boomers have hippies. But Gen X never really had a progressive culture movement. They came of age during Reagan and Clinton.
The good news is, there isn’t many of us. Boomers and Millennials are the two biggest groups.
But yeah I already hear BS like, back in my days we roam the streets blah blah blah from folks my age.
I’d bet this site just uses something like a census base percentage, apredicted end date and a countdown clock that creates the percentage/rate.
Is this like a timer for when we can start fighting climate change?
We got plenty of idiots in our generation too. We’re not off the hook
Boomers started fighting climate change decades ago. (see Al Gore)
No, because it was never about the boomers.
Many boomers aren’t helping, though. Especially the ones in the US.
Why the fuck are you waiting on your opponents to die when it’ll be too late? Just do what you want and then fight or kill them if they try to stop you.
Nah. Gen X are basically boomers so gotta wait that one out too.
Boomers were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative.
They got more conservative as they got older. All those hippie kids who protested Vietnam and experimented with drugs and sex ended up voting for Reagan.
People seem to have this view that everyone in the '60s was a hippie but that’s just not true. Time Magazine put the number around 300,000. In a country of 200 million, that’s only 0.15% of the population. They were a counterculture not mainstream culture. The vast majority of kids did not become hippies, and many actively hated the hippies.
A hell of a lot more than 300,000 people experimented with drugs and protested Vietnam.
A hell of a lot more than 300,000 people experimented with drugs and protested Vietnam.
True, but not all of them were hippies.
A lot of regular people, especially the younger generation, were doing drugs and protesting Vietnam.
Those two things are not what makes a hippie a hippie. It’s their life view that does.
People seem to have this view that everyone in the '60s was a hippie but that’s just not true.
'60s, maybe not, but 70s? There was a lot more of them then.
But yeah, not everyone was.
I’m a Boomer. Born in 1964. I’ve gotten a lot more liberal as I’ve gotten older. Went from Libertarian to Bernie supporter.
Don’t write us all off.
Are you saying they took what they wanted, then pulled the ladder up after them?
It sure seems like they feel that way about social security.
It sure seems like they feel that way about social security.
We paid into it, we should be able to get the benefits from it, just like any other American in any other generation.
Most didn’t actually do these things, most just graduated high school, pooped out some children, and got a job.
All those hippie kids who protested Vietnam and experimented with drugs and sex ended up voting for Reagan.
No, we didn’t. Also, inflation and Iranian hostage situation.
Boomers were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative.
BoomersPeople were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative. Since, like, forever.Fixed this for you.
You have 4 people, 3 liberals and 1 conservative, graduating from high school at 18, 75% are liberal. When they are in their late 30s, one of the liberals dies, so 66% are liberals. Then at age 50 another liberal dies, so the group is 50% liberal. One year after retirement (65) the last liberal dies and now the entire cohort is conservative. Without looking at the size of the population, one would think that the group of 4 slowly became more conservative over time.
Death, not persuasion, causes the political leaning of the population to shift as they get older. It is the very concerns of those that are liberal which also lead to their earlier deaths. If you are less likely to die from something that can be fixed with politics, you are more likely to be conservative and not want to rock the boat.
It turns out that the media jumped all over things like Hippies and anti-war protests. In reality, the average person was just as conservative then as they were 10 - 20 years ago.
