And when they perform raids, they should be required to shout “This is a F.A.C.T. jack”! Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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    I knew a guy a long time ago who said “Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store.”

    Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.

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    Sure thing that “legalized everywhere” you talk about:

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      They mentioned the ATF. It was explicitly US centric and while a bit hyperbolic it is becoming more common there.

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        You mean ATF as in the automatic transmission fluid? No it was not explicitly US centric. You thinking a three letter acronym has to be about the US is just further evidence of the same assumption being the basis for all your thoughts.

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          That’s a you problem. You need to learn to Google stuff in context. “ATF” alone might not tell you what it is, but you had “cannabis” and “dea” as 2 other keywords you could’ve used. That’s like putting “right” in Google translate and complaining that it sucks because it gave you the word for “just” instead of the opposite of “left”

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            As if I did not use a search engine to find the result about automatic transmission fluid just to make a point. Funny you try to belittle me for not being able to understand what the post wrote when what actually happened here was that my point went straight over your head. To put it in plain words for you: I understand the post is about the US. OP talks like the US is everything, like many people from the US do, and the stupidity of it is tiring.

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              I got your point. You pretended to be dumb to make it, good job. And now you’re pretending to be a victim because I pointed out that using Google wrong is not op’s fault. Me explaining how to Google is not “belittling”. Didn’t call you any names or anything.

              Back on point: I actually agree with the base idea that many people from the US talk as if they’re the center of the universe and everyone should know what they’re talking about, but c’mon… Let’s not pretend that we’re not watching films and series made there and we don’t know what ATF and DEA are. Make these points when they’re valid, not every time an American speaks.

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                I personally had no idea what they meant when I entered this thread, it’s not pretending, there’s a lot of projection going on here

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                  I had heard of the DEA, but not the ATF, to be honest. The problem is that three letter acronyms are hardly unique unless context such as domestic to the US is being provided.

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                I am not hating on Americans here. You did say I could not Google though, which is just plain wrong.

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      Map no longer accurate, Minnesota legalized recreational this part year 😁

      Also here in belgium, it is only decriminalized up to 3g.

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      Brazillian medical exception needs a big asterisk. You can get medical permits but you cannot grow and they are not legal distribution neither. You basically have to start growing illegally, then going to the police department close to you with a lawyer signed document saying that you are growing against the law to be able to fulfill the legally medical judge permit. If you’re in condition to do that, that mean you have enough money that police are not going to bother you anyways because they only harass poor and black people.

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        Yea, I have not done any quality control on the image. However the point was just to point out that weed is not legal almost everywhere, contrary to the post title. There are probably lots of inaccuracies, though the main point still stands.

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    America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you’re the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .

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      They make a North American event and call it the World Series. Hence North America is the whole world. QED.

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      Not to be pedantic, but neither Automatic Transmission Fluid nor Data Encryption Algorithms have any kind of jurisdiction in any country on the planet. Op provided enough context clues to understand the country they’re talking about.

      The only crime they committed is not including three words in a bracket to say “everywhere (in the US)” while still mentioning the jurisdiction of the three letter agencies in that country.

      Is it US centralism thinking? Sure. But it’s not like OP left out all the necessary info to determine where and what they were talking about. Not to mention their entire post is a joke with a clear punchline. I don’t think anyone here is too stupid to understand the use of “jurisdiction” in OPs message, or the punchline it leads to, so why are you pretending to be that way to make a point? It simply weakens your point.

      Imo there are much better places and comments to point out US exceptionalism BS than a throw away joke with enough context clues to understand it.

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    While it doesn’t work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.

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    Its still illegal at a federal level and I don’t see that changing any time soon. You can’t smoke your pot and work for the government.

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    Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.

    Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.

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      And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn’t hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.

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          DEA ultimately has final say though. And we are definitely living in tumultuous if not unprecedented times.

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            Technically, all times are unprecedented since we don’t repeat years!

            The times we’re living in? Definitely tumultuous, definitely not unprecedented. Political strife? There are obvious comparisons being made with the 1930s or the 1850s. Covid? The Spanish flu ravaged the world a century ago. Drug legalization? How about the end of Prohibition?

            It turns out that a lot of people really just like shouting “unprecedented” because it makes their speech sound more dramatic.

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              Well, there’s more people now then ever. The environment is either at or past an irreversible tipping point. Every year being either the coldest, the hottest, the wettest, or the driest in recorded time. We have too much CO2 and not enough potable water. The ice caps are melting, the choral is bleaching, the sea is rising, and bugs are on the ropes. We’ve got fascism problems in basically every country simultaneously. Not to mention there is frank discussion about not whether or not there are aliens, but what about them should be declassified and discussed with the public. Our terrestrial telescopes can’t see shit because of the sheer volume of satellites blanketing the night sky. And we’ve got cascading humanitarian crisis being captured in high definition and beamed to our 24 hour pocket sized global information machines, but all anyone seems to care about is what genitals you pledge allegiance to.

              There may be precedents for these times, but they are the type of precedents that immediatly precede a global cataclysms. If anything your average person is not being dramatic enough.

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                climate change, tipping point

                Yeah, fair point. The bit about “coldest, hottest, wettest, driest” is pure BS, though. I need receipts if you honestly believe that, but I think it’s just an ill-considered rhetorical flourish.

                fascism problems

                Definitely not unprecedented.

                aliens

                OK, now you’ve lost me. I’m not terribly interested in going into conspiracy-theory land.

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                  The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since 2010.

                  https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

                  In July, David Grusch, a former intelligence official, testified that the U.S. government was holding nonhuman bodies taken from U.F.O. crash sites, that the military is misusing funds to cover up a “U.A.P. crash retrieval and reverse engineering program,” and that people had been injured in efforts to conceal these operations. He also alleged retaliation from his superiors for previously making similar claims. The Pentagon has denied the allegations.

                  On Friday, some lawmakers saw tantalizing hints in Mr. Monheim’s presentation that there might have been something to Mr. Grusch’s claims and, while the rules of a classified briefing barred them from actually repeating what they had learned, they suggested the inspector general had found some of the claims credible. Which ones? No one would say.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/us/politics/ufos-aliens-classified-briefing.html

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    Fun fact, while working “the season” in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.

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    I don’t even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.

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      Speaking of HHS (from NYT):

      Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.

      The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.

      But sadly

      Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.

      “D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.

      I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it’s the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys’ pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they’ve been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.

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    nope. It should be regulated by each state. The federal government should just back off.