So uh… Israel… I’m pretty sure “never forget” doesn’t mean “we should practice it so we don’t forget how to conduct an efficient genocide”
Nonono… It’s “never forget what happened to the Jews”.
…and use that as a strategy guide to oppress others?
Literally selective sympathies huh. I just don’t get why they can’t make things better with people instead of burning literal food to try win.
And the USA funds the genocide
And acts as the good guys to boot.
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Definition Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
in whole or in part. Not that you care, just for anybody wondering what the Geneva convention says. Though people should not base their morality on law, even UN law.
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being aided by the majority of Gaza residents who support them
“It’s not genocide, but if it is they deserve it”
Fucking disgusting Nazi logic.
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Stating a fact that’s not convenient to your false narrative
Which fact? That Gaza civilians deserve to be slaughtered because of their alleged support of Hamas?
Honestly who are you trying to convince here?
no, collective punishment by genocide is about as Nazi as you get, then again, no wonder you got upset at it, you don’t even view “brown people” as human, they are all Terrorists, every Gaza Child is nothing but another terrorist, so why not kill them?
The genocide of Palestinians by Israel has been going on way longer than Hamas has existed.
I am no armchair legal scholar, I 've already argued against placing too much value on legality. It is you on the other hand who tries to minimize the severity of Israel’s wrongdoings by arguing pseudo-legalistic semantics.
If the 1948 convention never existed, Israel’s actions would be just as reprehensible.
In case anyone is on the fence about this issue and doesn’t realize this is easily disproven misinformation, there hasn’t been an election for the president or legislature in Palestine since 2006.. Hamas has maintained a stranglehold on the region for seventeen years by discontinuing elections.
Even if that was true, this is a bad faith argument anyhow: it’s entirely possible to focus on the atrocities being committed by both sides. Rivermonster simply seems to enjoy regurgitating Israeli propaganda.
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I will remind you that current official members of the Israeli government mocked a holocaust survivor by saying they deserved it, and if it were up to him, it would have been twice as bad.
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yet the brown ones are WAY worse, got it
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I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn’t fund?
Can’t get played when you play all sides.
I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with ‘How dare the USA’ lol.
It’s like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.
People really just don’t like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.
Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
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Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
What kind of simple minded asinine take are you appeal to extreme’ing about?
Helicopter or hands-off parenting? The choice won’t impact a kid as much as you think
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1193176710
Nature versus nurture is a long-standing debate in biology and society about the relative influence on human beings of their genetic inheritance (nature) and the environmental conditions of their development (nurture). The alliterative expression “nature and nurture” in English has been in use since at least the Elizabethan period[1] and goes back to medieval French.[2] The complementary combination of the two concepts is an ancient concept (Ancient Greek: ἁπό φύσεως καὶ εὐτροφίας).[3] Nature is what people think of as pre-wiring and is influenced by genetic inheritance and other biological factors. Nurture is generally taken as the influence of external factors after conception e.g. the product of exposure, experience and learning on an individual.
You weren’t describing nature vs nurture. You were implying eugenics with your last statement.
Blankets there seems to have a knack for saying asinine things, then acting outraged and claiming the other person is an idiot when they call them out for saying them. I wouldn’t engage; I’d block them but they’re always good for a laugh.
There were tunnels under that food
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Tragic how the abused has become the abuser.
This is not tragic. This is, has been, and will always be Israeli foreign policy. Ever since the state was created, they were supposed to be a “foothold of civilization in the region”. They have constantly settled outside of borders and into Palestinian territory, and then defended their settlements with their superior firepower. They have constantly waged this type of unorthodox war. They supported Hamas as a tactical strike against the more moderate candidates in Palestine, because you can’t paint moderates as the aggressor as easily - this worked wonders for their PR - they managed to clean their image, because they had an enemy that looked even worse.
Make no mistake friend - Israel has never been the abused, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused. They have been conducting an ethnic cleansing in the area. The only hope Palestinians have is that history books write the truth, but seeing as how Israel’s money isn’t running out and their reach is long, even this seems unlikely - just look at all the support they still have despite their foreign policy being literally genocide.
Israel has never been the abuser, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused.
I believe you need to edit that… Not in the context of you being “wrong/right” or anything opinion based like that, just that its contradictional… I don’t think it’s what you meant to actually say is all :)
I believe it’s a simple typo. Should be “never been the abused” and d and r are close to each other.
In addition the founders of Israel broke the international Anti-Nazi boycott to build their right wing ethnostate. This is who they have always been. Their support of the Nazis directly contributed to the holocaust.
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Your calling anyone else a liar is the height of irony. Israeli genocide apologists all seem to follow the same pattern: spread misleading, often factually incorrect talking points and call anyone with a view critical of Israel a Nazi and/or an anti-semite.
People are catching on and see through your bullshit. We see that nearly every accusation is a confession, as is often the case with fascists.
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Lol, is that the best you’ve got? It doesn’t even make sense.
Has anyone else noticed how prolific rivermonster is in this thread? And how their comments are full of half-truths that always favor Israeli policy? Weird, isn’t it?
I can’t figure out if they spread propaganda and disinformation professionally or if they just have a hard on for Jewish ethnostates or Muslim genocide.
Watching their mental gymnastics as they try to justify Israeli’s actions in Palestine while decrying Hamas’s similar behavior is always good for a laugh. Plus how they accuse anyone critical of Zionism to be a Nazi or anti-semite. They’re kinda the worst type of person.
Spamming the comment section with pro israeli comments or even just muddying the waters. I’ve seen it with a few posters, including rivermonster. It distracts those reading from the real issue being discussed, usually israeli crimes against humanity.
Well, from his comment history he is single minded at best.
generally, they also have problems with the concept of “before / after” or literally say they ignore anything that disagrees with their statement
Just block 'em and move on 🤷♂
I cannot help but think of nazi Germany when I read this. It’s very similar
They gotta learn that somewhere…
Fuck this shit.
The most moral army of the only democracy in the Middle East! If you disagree, you’re homophobic since some of these soldiers are gay
Eh?
Right?
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Israeli propaganda is obvious propaganda.
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look, unlike the IDF, we don’t support killing 6000 children
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yes, Hamas should come out, and they with the IDF can have right good honorable pistol dules at noon
Israel’s army is apparently much closer to Russia’s than the US’. This is disgusting and pathetic.
USA army rape
All armies rape
And violates Geneva Conventions. No non-combatant shall be harmed.
Which is why most non-Russian armies make it criminal instead of a mission objective.
No one’s saying the US military are a bunch of faultless angels. But there’s a certain line of morality they are expected to keep, and conduct like that is illegal. They’re expected to disobey unlawful orders, and shit like this is unlawful.
Shit goes on at army bases and you’ll hear about soldiers being shitty off and on base, but you never see the US military devolving into petty thugs like this in active combat.
Typically we save that for the police back home. And I wish I were being sarcastic.
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Demographic from Wikipedia:
0–14 years: 44.1% 15–24 years: 21.3% 25–54 years: 28.5% 55–64 years: 3.5% 65 years and over: 2.6%
something like 75% of all Gazans were either not born or not of voting age when the last elections were held 16 years ago.
Goddamned time traveling Palestinians!
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damn, imagine you need to justify killing brown people so hard you would use Assad support numbers.
Fun fact, there can be no accurate survey of opinion in a region controlled by a group that kills you for having the wrong one
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ok, for the eternally slow, there can be no accurate political polling done in an authoritarian regime, it’s like going around and asking people in Nazi Germany if they support the Nazis, what are you going to do say no and get put into the camps?
and how is “Hamas” defined? to kill all members of Hamas you need to kill every single Palestinian to be sure
Anyone harping on how Hamas is the “elected” government when they haven’t had elections in, what, 16 years, is just simping for Netanyahu’s genocide. I see you felt the need to say “elected” twice just to be really obvious about it.
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and the IDF targets civilians even when they aren’t “at war”, your point being?
Oh, please tell me what you think of IDF killing their own:
An initial IDF probe into the hostage killing incident suggests all three men were shirtless, with one carrying a makeshift white flag.
On seeing them, one Israeli soldier shouted “terrorists!” to the other forces, initiating fire at the men, according to reports.
While two hostages were hit immediately and fell to the ground, the third managed to escape into a nearby building where despite pleas in Hebrew, he was also shot and killed, a military official said.
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wow, we are getting into these conspiracy theories, ya? well I’ll tell you that the IDF killed those 1300 Israelis.
now for some real info: Netanyahu supported Hamas to stay in power by targeting their opposition, there would be no Hamas if not for the Ethnostate government in Israel right now.
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nah, Hamas only took the opportunity they had been waiting on, Bibi had to redeploy the IDF from the Gaza border in order to help pogrom the West bank animals
Looks like they took “never forget” a bit too far
Nazi subhuman trash (the IDF)
Don’t dehumanize people ever, please. War crimes need to be pointed out and punished, but neither nazi nor subhuman is a reasonable accusation.
Fucking CNN blocks firefox? wtf
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Works fine for me even with adblocking & tracker bloacking.
Works fine for me. Firefox, Android, and within the EU.
It opens fine for me on Android
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Thank you!
It’s pretty bad - glad they will be disciplined.
I doubt it. Stuff like this is coming out every few days right now. They either shit the bed on teaching their soldiers not to commit war crimes or they just don’t care. They literally bulldozed Palestinian houses in West Bank this last week and the week before that they lit up a group of journalists with no excuse to be misidentified.
Like how they disciplined the guy that murdered Shireen Abu Akleh? They’ll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. There’s a reason the IDF trains US cops.
Well given how the Hamas would cheer them on if the situations were reversed its at least a differentiation and a step in the right direction.
they will get disciplined… with a cool medal, similar, but slightly different from the one given for murdering children in the west bank.
