• bighatchester@lemmy.world
      14·
      10 months ago

      I feel like me and my gf are the only people that had zero interest in Oppenheimer . Just didn’t appeal to me at all , barbie was great though !

    • Ibaudia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      10 months ago

      I loved Oppenheimer because I love biopics. Didn’t bother with Barbie because it seemed not my style.

      • 0ops@lemm.ee
        23·
        10 months ago

        For what it’s worth, Barbie was way weirder than I thought it was going to be. Worth a watch imo

      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
        20·
        10 months ago

        Didn’t bother with Barbie because it seemed not my style.

        What I assumed the movie would be about being a Barbie movie isn’t my style either. However, the Barbie movie was quite a bit more than I expected. I rather liked the subtle feminist messaging underneath the obvious message. The movie also didn’t take itself too seriously on what could be considered very delicate topics. I’d recommend it even for non-typical Barbie doll audience.

    • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      10 months ago

      That’s what is unfortunate about some of these jokes. I find them funny, but most of the times it turns out that the intention was incel-ish. Reddit’s subreddit, DankMemes, is a prime example of this, you think you just saw a harmless sex based joke and then you jump into the comments and you find out the truth.

    • Sunfoil@lemmy.world
      2·
      10 months ago

      I would say a joke about how hard it can be for people to get a girlfriend immediately setting of incel alarms for you is being overly sensitive. It’s a very relatable and common experience for a lot of young men, so it is ripe for comedy. I guess struggling to get a girlfriend can technically make you involuntarily celibate, but I don’t think that was what you meant.

      • Vub@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 months ago

        “Hard for people to get a girlfriend”. People? GET a girlfriend?

        The thing is that ALL HUMANS have a hard time finding someone meaningful for them. But only with the misogynistic and immature viewpoint of some men does it become this toxic and dangerous. Blaming some outer system instead of getting a grip of themselves and stop acting like whiny assholes.

        • Sunfoil@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 months ago

          If you think ‘get a girlfriend’ is some deeply misogynistic language indicative of how terrible the patriarchy is, you need to get some perspective.

          This was a throwaway joke about struggling to find a girlfriend. There is nothing toxic or dangerous going on here. They’re not blaming an outer system. Lots of men do genuinely have problems getting the confidence and self esteem to approach women, calling them whiny assholes is not very helpful.

          Tirade against incels elsewhere.

        • Sunfoil@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 months ago

          All men struggling to find a girlfriend are hateful misogynists? No, so it doesn’t help to immediately brand them as such.

        • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          10 months ago

          The sexist remark about Barbie is the set up for the self deprecating joke. It’s not said seriously, it’s there to make you feel a little bit offended and engaged to then realise that they are making fun of themselves.

      • Fedizen@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 months ago

        I’ve heard almost this exact thing said unironically to no laughs where people believe they’re too smart to have girlfriend so it just strikes me as either a tone deaf joke or a cringe real thought so it doesn’t land.

  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
    31·
    10 months ago

    It’s actually much harder to watch Oppenheimer, because you have to see him say his famous catchphrase in a scene that could show John Green how to make sex more awkward

      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
        9·
        10 months ago

        He says, as Tatlock remounts him with the book in hand. “It’s ancient sumerian, and translates to… It’s Oppen-time-r”

      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
        12·
        10 months ago

        Oh yeah. It’s an absolute fucking insult to the man. He didn’t actually feel any of the gravity of the situation when he remarked “now I am become death, destroyer of worlds,” he wasn’t making a reference to a religious text, he just remembered that cool time he had sex and his lover dismounted, walked over to the bookcase, pulled a random book off the shelf, and asked “what does this means?” before getting back on

    • SargTeaPot@lemmy.nz
      4·
      10 months ago

      Maybe we aren’t gatekeeping, maybe this debate is us discussing the movies. Don’t like it scroll on.

  • PatFusty@lemm.ee
    25·
    10 months ago

    I would watch Barbie 500x before I watch Oppenheimer again. That movie was made for people with 10 second attention spans and that cinematographer should be arrested. Im surprised people didnt get epilepsy watching Oppenheimer.

    • VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world
      16·
      10 months ago

      Skill issue. Just reading the Wikipedia article on the Manhattan Project would have given you most of the knowledge you need. I watched Oppenheimer and Barbie and liked both for different reasons.

    • Something_Complex@lemmy.world
      9·
      10 months ago

      Wow, one has one of the most important and impressive complex storyline ever.

      The other one slightly defies gender roles and they rush the end…

      Shit I liked them both, but if you don’t like Oppenheimer it might be BC your IQ sits under the requirements man.

      Edit: I’m sorry for you guys :(, the world must be so simple too you I kinda admire it

      • Sunfoil@lemmy.world
        26·
        10 months ago

        Like most Nolan films, it is pseudo-intellectual tripe that allows people to think they’re smart because they can follow the plot of a simple Hollywood blockbuster produced for the lowest common denominator. Its cinematography is like they’re making a tiktok to hold your atrophied attention span.

        The fact that you refer to the plot as ‘the most important and impressive complex storyline ever’ portrays your age, how little film you watch, and probably why we shouldn’t believe your take on either Barbie, Oppenheimer, or anything else.

        • Something_Complex@lemmy.world
          3·
          10 months ago

          Hey you are absolutely right, if we die because of climate change instead of nuclear war.

          But I bet if the last thing you see is a bright flash it sudently becomes a lot more important

          • Sunfoil@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            No, because Oppenheimer was not an instructional video on nuclear drills. Not that there are any; if nukes successfully hit, it’s the lottery if you survive healthy enough to continue humanity. I’m not sure how Oppenheimer is meant to change that fact. Good job reading my comment with zero comprehension I guess.

      • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.eeEnglish
        16·
        10 months ago

        “To be fair, you need a pretty high IQ to watch rick and morty”

        If you think opp was intellectual you’re the self-important mediocre schlub it was meant to impress

      • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
        12·
        10 months ago

        An important and complex storyline can still be executed awfully either in writing or cinematography. But you gotta have at least a somewhat under the average IQ to understand that.

        • Something_Complex@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 months ago

          Well I’ve whatched it’s really good. If you don’t understand people like west Anderson and directors in the same category I really wonder if you think this movie was bad

          • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
            15·
            10 months ago

            It’s not about the movie(s) in question, it is a general statement. Saying a movie is automatically good because the underlying story is good or worth telling is denouncing so many factors that play into making a movie a good movie. PatFussy was only pointing out that the cutting was terrible (I haven’t seen the movie itself so I cannot judge it) and too fast paced. This is something that can absolutely ruin an otherwise great movie and make it unbearable to watch. The story, the script, the dialogue, the acting, the effects, the cutting, the lighting, the sound and soundtrack- all these things (and many more) are individually important and only when everything works well together a movie can be good (doesn’t automatically mean it is a good movie). Is Oppenheimer a story worth being told? Probably. Most stories are. Has it been told in a well executed way? I don’t know, and also this is a highly personal matter of taste. If someone thinks the cutting is epileptic then that’s a valid opinion that has nothing to do with their intelligence, not understanding a movie, or having an unsophisticated taste in cinema.

            As a side note, putting “West” Anderson in a category with Christopher Nolan is ridiculous. One makes arty, more indie movies with rather obscure storylines that rely heavily on the script and dialogue, while the other makes grand style blockbuster action movies. Except for both of them being famous and making movies, the difference could not be vaster.

  • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
    22·
    10 months ago

    Why do you need a girl to go with for Barbie? If you want to watch it, just fucking watch it. Who cares what people think.

  • MyFairJulia@lemmy.world
    20·
    10 months ago

    My gf and me watched both Oppenheimer and Barbie a few weeks before we got together. I loved both movies equally and my gf definitely preferred Oppenheimer.