I’ve been feeling down lately and I started re-watching futurama for some good nostalgia, but it keeps making transphobic jokes which is kind of just making me feel worse. Anyone have any suggestions for comfort shows to watch?

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      I’ll be the one to spoil IT Crowd, it has at least one poor portrayal of a trans woman. Avoid anything associated with Graham Linehan.

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        Agreed about IT Crowd. I watched it for the first time like 2 years ago and there was a whole episode that was awful.

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      Drawn Together

      No, oh definitely not. It’s funny but it has anti-everything jokes, including anti trans. They’re an equal opportunity offender against all groups.

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      It Crowd (comedy)

      except for that joke in s3e4 that led to graham going all terf central

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      Mash and Allo Allo both have no shortage of jokes about cross-dressing and plenty of casual sexism. Fawlty Towers … is also a product of it’s time, any good parts get outweighed by the bad parts.

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          Klinger wants to get classified as crazy by wearing dresses, which implies that wearing different clothes is a sign of mental illness. Herr Flick gets sexual gratification from wearing women’s clothes, thus implying that wearing different clothes is something only a sexual deviant would do. Both of these stereotypes continue to be used to harm Trans women.

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            Klinger wants to get classified as crazy by wearing dresses, which implies that wearing different clothes is a sign of mental illness

            Until very recently you’d be kicked out of the army for being gay or trans. Klinger was simply taking advantage of a broken system, we have no idea what his personal beliefs on crossdressing were.

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              That’s the motivations of the character, he was in a dress in a comedy so that people could laugh at him.

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                To be clear, having seen M.A.S.H, this is correct. And you’re right about the way that the narratives it plays into continue to be used to harm trans women.

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                Luckily they realized after Vietnam that draftees who don’t want to be there don’t really give it their all. You bring up an interesting point though, all men in the country have to register for selective service at 18, I wonder if that still applies to trans women who haven’t updated their paperwork yet

                Anyway, hypotheticals aside, I think it’s good that gay or trans people who want to serve in the armed forces have that option now

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                  Absolutely, there shouldn’t be anything to stop those individuals from serving on their own volition.

                  luckily they realized after Vietnam that… (conscripts) … who don’t want to be there don’t really give it their all.

                  It was 2006-2007 I was a really big 9/11 truther, any time people would talk about a draft I used to rebut “I don’t want to go there, and I want to die anyways, go ahead and give me a gun and force me to go, let’s see how many Americans I can kill with sabotage and a rampage.”

                  It blows my mind that we still have people who think a conscription effort would be anything but detrimental.

                  Speaking of, anyone else notice the semantic propaganda that is the word draft/ conscript? Our enemies are evil and they conscript their men to fight in pointless wars, but we on the other hand draft our young heroes to selflessly serve their country.

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      DS9

      Unless you count the gender bending jokes surrounding Trill issues that have been made once or twice. Or the time Kira ruined a deal Quark was trying to make by editing his hologram program of her to have his head on a female body to disgust his buyer.

      Actually curious what people think about those, along with Drew’s brother on the Drew Carry show.

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        I also think there was gender swap in 3rd rock played for laughs, but I might be misremembering gender differences for an alien. I also don’t recall the episodes so not sure if it was just poking fun at gender as a whole.

        Similarly, I think scrubs has some references that may be unpleasant but on the whole they tend to be good or thoughtful when dealing with subjects that at the time weren’t always represented well.

        Unfortunately, a lot of older shows have unpleasant jokes. We just have to realize that jokes were a way to discuss the taboo and if we didn’t have those jokes back then, we might not have the progress to today. That’s not to say we want them now but we should judge the media on the knowledge and morals of the time.

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        There’s also an episode where Quark undergoes gender reassignment in order to close a deal, which is played for laughs and includes lines about women being sensitive because of their hormones. It sticks out because it’s just horrible, while she show is generally good.

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      The Venture Bros does have a couple of borderline transphobic jokes about Dr. Mrs. The Monarch in one episode