• banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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      Liberal take right now is, “I support Biden 100%, it’s just a shame how the genocide his government is enabling and vocally supporting is hurting his poll numbers.”

      It’s not like Trump wouldn’t be doing the same thing sending weapons to a fascist government, I mean that’s American foreign policy 101, but it takes a particularly sadistic American perspective to care more about how it makes them look in the polls than the horrors inflicted by the state.

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          Search Google news or similar aggregate for “Biden poll numbers Israel Gaza Palestine” and you will find many liberal pundits making this exact point. Public opinion doesn’t support this genocide but the government does, should tell you something there.

          For the second point you only have to have a cursory glance at US-sponsored regime changes and coups, the right/fascist group supporting foreign private business interests is the one the US supports.

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              If you truly didn’t care you would agree with the criticisms that apply rather than paradoxically dismiss them. It’s wrong that this media apparatus, supported by partisan political and corporate interests, divorced from public sentiment, cares more about Biden’s poll numbers than genocide, correct? This is very easy to agree with unless you are personally invested in this political system to the point where you can’t criticize aspects of it that are engaged in genocide.

              “Don’t criticize Biden for supporting genocide, that’s how you get another Trump term.” What can you criticize if not genocide, this is fucked.

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                  It’s ignorant and moronic to criticize a president and government for enabling genocide? Okay.

                  “Don’t criticize the genocide supporting president, it might help the other genocide supporting president.” Accepting how fucked this is is a pre-requisite for any change that could happen so good luck with the status quo there.

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                    You can’t maintain an effective echo chamber without calling people stupid and blocking them, get with it

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      Cheering to eat shit because you’re being threatened with eating a bigger shit

      Never advocating to stop eating shit

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          destroy humanity

          What exactly do you think the bombs being sold right now by the US government/president to Israel are doing?

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          Yes it’s the principled voters destroying humanity not the ghouls capitulating to the defense contractors

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        A lot of times it’s even like, “don’t talk about how bad the shit tastes! If you grimace you’re gonna get the bigger shit! Your natural reaction to eating shit is something you need to deny and suppress!”

        Accepting it’s shit is step one, if you can’t even openly vocalize or emotionally express your discontent, how is anyone supposed to begin to organize. How do you know who else doesn’t like shit if everyone is just silently consenting to it.

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        As a queer person with friends whose literal well-being is in danger if Trump gets another term, but who are safe under Democrats, fuck you. Your privilege is how you can act this way. Refusing to vote for the “lesser of two evils” is a nice way to say you don’t give a fuck about marginalized people.

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          Yes spend your time fucking me instead of fucking the democrats running the worst candidates they can find. You definitely understand the point and will battle to eat the little shit instead of ways to stop eating shit at all.

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            Thanks for further making my point for me. I’m sure your principles will keep my trans friends safe.

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                Weird, guess reality has been missed by you. Lots of protections put in place over the last few years, lots of attacks during the Trump administration. Stop making excuses for your apathy.