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There are plenty of legit uses of non-authorized controllers. Its a shame shit like xim brought them to do this
For example, I am designing a submarine which I will control using a knock-off Xbox controller.
To be fair, that controller wasn’t the problem
Xim?
It’s a device that allows you to play mouse and keyboard on a console while making it look like a controller is connected. A lot of people use it to get a leg up in games like shooters which I find pretty wack.
Why is nobody thinking about disabled gamers who have carpal tunnel syndrome or other problems and special adapters?
And the sad thing is xim or Chronus zen devices will just find a way to bypass this anyway.
This feels like a huge middle finger from Microsoft again.
I’m wondering if the workarounds they would devise would open the manufacturer to legal liability for circumventing the DRM.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. Xim and Chronus users are rampant in online games especially call of duty. Now that they own it, they are looking to filter those users out finally…. Or at least make it harder.
It’s why I don’t really think that their main goal is to block cheating, it seems more likely they’re doing it to enforce controller exclusivity to get people to pay more for licensed first or second party controllers.
Cheat devices don’t care, they’ll easily find ways around it, even if it involves copyright or trademark infringement.
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People fail to realize a major reason MS is doing this, money. They make more money from making people buy first party controllers, likely also from licensing as well.
Cheating tools will find ways around it, this disproportionately affects third party controllers.
Unfortunately many people likely won’t speak out against this and the ones that do will be attacked and called cheaters for speaking out against these actions because unfortunately the gaming community has a nasty tendency to accept things that otherwise would be deemed hostile or anti-consumer when they otherwise shouldn’t.
Get a Steam Deck, build your own console running SteamOS or ChimeraOS or just game on a PC like any normal person. (Preferably on Linux, it gives you endless freedom and nowadays supports most games. You can also emulate any game on any console you like and use whatever controller or other input devices you want.)
You’re right, playing on Xbox is just reprehensible and should be punished by 20 years in the electric chair.
What you’re telling me is that you play proprietary games on proprietary hardware. You should be ashamed. Normal people play Battle of Wesnoth and Neverball and do so on RISC-V and GPUs with open source firmware.
You claim satire but it reads like disproportionately pedantic rage. Even if you disagree, at least the person you’re replying made a good faith attempt to add something helpful to the post. Could you try explaining your point unsarcastically? It would probably generate much better discussion around the issue you care about. All this does is turn the comment thread into a flame war for no reason.
Original comment is such an off topic, disconnected and edgy tirade that I don’t really think I should be doing any more explaining given extremely heavy handed delivery in my response.
You seem to understand subOP better though. What was his point? He recommended Linux handheld running proprietary storefront and proprietary games, with 3 hour battery life, in place of a high end TV console. Also said normal people play on PC which means what for console gamers? Maybe I’m missing something.
It didn’t seem off-topic to me because the article for this post is about a console only allowing proprietary controllers, so they were suggesting an alternative setup in which that would not be an issue. I think that’s in keeping with the general theme of a lot of tech/gaming Lemmy instances following reddexit, i.e. don’t lock yourself into an ecosystem, “enshittification” bad, that kind of thing.
I think it’s valid to disagree with that – there are lots of reasons to prefer consoles; play whatever jollies your Roger. For me, this sort of thing isn’t an issue because I haven’t bought or used third-party controllers. Maybe one could be in support of this change because it could help prevent use of controllers with unfair functionality like macros or what-have-you.
Maybe the steam deck (or ROG ally) is a decent replacement for a console, when it’s docked it’s functionally the same, I haven’t tried it so I’m not sure. It’s such a PC thing to do suggesting anything other than PC gaming is abnormal, anyway. The point is there’s a lot of interesting things to discuss about it, so it’s a waste to focus on what they call normal or not, you know?
Didn’t subOP argue for locking yourself to Steam storefront though? Yeah, you’ll get bigger choice of hardware (which comes with cool stuff like shader stutter) but you’re still at mercy of commercial entities in many ways.
I play on many different platforms (or should I say - lock myself into multiple ecosystems?), Linux included, so it’s supper funny when people go full Linux jihad on me. It’s annoying that it happens so often here and I know it’s a bubble but in an ideal world that should lead to honest discussions and not doing sales pitches for increasingly niche solutions nobody asked for.
That’s a good point, though I’ll say you can play non-steam games on the steam deck (even switch emulation!) and upgrade some of the hardware yourself like the SSD, so there’s some wiggle to that particular lock. In any case, I hope you enjoy whatever your setup is, proprietary or otherwise.
I’m pretty sure buying a Steam Deck is probably easier than buying an Xbox, while they did ignore the point of your post your comment just comes off as incomprehensible and strange.
I thought there wouldn’t be any doubt it was satire.
Arguing virtues of open source as a better way of running proprietary software is weird. Calling people playing on consoles not normal is really deranged and is likely a product of a 13 year old or someone with 13 year old mentality.
It’s rather debatable if buying Steam Deck is easier than going to a regular store and buying Xbox either outright or in installments with Game Pass too.
Hey just a question, I’ve been dabbling in Linux for a bit now, but honestly a huge deal breaker for me is not having applications with at least near feature parity with ShareX and Everything. There seems to be plenty of screen shot apps but they seem to be clunky in comparison, while I have yet to see a reliable gif capturing tool. Meanwhile, Everything can search my computer in a few milliseconds without issue but I haven’t gotten close to that on Linux.
Was wondering if you might know of similar programs on Linux since you seem more familiar with it than me
Hey, I’m a former Windows user myself. I also used and enjoyed ShareX on Windows, I haven’t found a perfect replacement but KDE Spectacle and Flameshot are pretty good. Flameshot is my personal favourite. Have you tried Peek for capturing GIFs? There’s also Kooha.
Everything can search my computer in a few milliseconds without issue but I haven’t gotten close to that on Linux
I almost never need to search my entire computer, but when I do, I use the command-line tool fd. It’s very fast and pretty easy to use. You just type
fdfollowed by the expression you want to look for. ANGRYsearch seems to be a GUI replacement for Everything, haven’t tried that one out though.
These sort of dongles that let you use a controller with other devices are great.
I own an old xbox 360-era arcade stick and it has greatly extended the life and use of it.Collective punishment?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
It’s unclear if Microsoft is trying to target cheat devices, or whether the Xbox maker is trying to push its official partner program.
An error has now started appearing for some third-party Xbox controllers, alongside a warning that notes the accessory will be blocked from further use after two weeks.
This might also block third-party cheat devices like XIM, Cronus Zen, and ReaSnow S1 from working on an Xbox console.
Activision, Bungie, and Ubisoft have all been trying to block these hardware spoofing devices, with restrictions and bans in Call of Duty, Destiny 2, and Rainbow Six Siege.
Brook Gaming, which manufactures an adapter that supports PlayStation controllers on Xbox, says its device is affected by Microsoft’s block.
PowerA launched the first officially licensed third-party wireless controller for Xbox consoles earlier this year, and Windows Central speculates Microsoft’s latest ban could be related to the company working to expand approval for third-party wireless Xbox controllers.
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Nice, so now when I get destroyed by a 13 year old on Apex I can’t blame it on them using a kb/mouse.
