• toiletobserver@lemmy.world
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    What a coward… I regret not being able to give him his day in court and hold him in a concrete box for the rest of his long life.

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      This is a bad take, the dude was fucked in the head from the war and other stuff. It’s not necessarily his fault, he didn’t get the help he needed.

      When something like this happens people always blame the guns or the guy, but this guy clearly had issues that everyone was like 🤷‍♂️. He then goes out and kills 18 people then himself, and people demonize him as if there were no other warnings. He was fucked from the beginning.

      This isn’t someone that was like “I wanna kill all gays/muslims/Democrats/etc…” he was just fucked in the head.

      Edit: it seems the Reddit downvoting hive mind has followed us here. I wrote pretty much the exact same comment elsewhere in here and it gets 20 up votes, yet this has is at -14

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          He was in the Army Reserve it said, I don’t expect it to go into his back story. He could have been in combat previously. My buddy spent 3 years in the Army and he’s been in the Reserve for like 5 years now because he gets good benefits from it.

          Regardless of that, this dude has mental issues that were treatable but he clearly didn’t get the help he needed.

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        No pity for fucking murderers. I’m fucked in the head and I know plenty of people with mental illness, none of us have murdered anyone.

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          Yeah… That’s because they got the help that they needed. You don’t really want a person with paranoid delusions walking around unmedicated. Also you just said “mental illness” which could be a wide range of things, there’s very few disorders that bring you to the point of killing someone else and this dude apparently had one of them.

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          That poster is showing empathy and you are not. MORE violence is clearly not the answer to this problem. I know it’s hard and emotions are high but these people are some of the ones most desperately in need of help.

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            That poster is showing empathy and you are not.

            Correct.

            MORE violence is clearly not the answer to this problem.

            Also correct.

            but these people are some of the ones most desperately in need of help.

            At least from me, they have given up any eligibility for empaty or help when they decide to murser innocent people.

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              There’s a big difference between “the voices are telling me that if I eliminate these people other people will be happy and thank me for what I’m doing” and “I fucking hate all you left-wing, socialist loving, rainbow wearing pussies! You need to die to make this world a better place!”

              One is someone with severe mental illness, the other is just a piece of shit human being.

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                There’s a big difference between “the voices are telling me that if I eliminate these people other people will be happy and thank me for what I’m doing” and “I fucking hate all you left-wing, socialist loving, rainbow wearing pussies! You need to die to make this world a better place!”

                Not from the viewpoint of the people getting eliminated and their loved ones there isn’t.

                I’d rather have empathy with them than the killers, no matter their motivation.