Correct me if I got anything wrong, TA!
This is exactly why we didn’t want you to have independence. You clearly weren’t ready. I mean the whole Trump issue was one thing, but this… This is just monstrous.
Tbf you did have King George.
Can’t believe you didn’t want to be governed by a guy called “Mad King George”
Let’s not be pointing fingers now.
They’ve had three new prime ministers since you made this comment.
Don’t throw that stone too hard, after BoJo.
Bojo was no where near djt levels of messed up. Bad but not as bad.
What’s worse? A smart guy pretending to be dumb while tearing apart a country? Or a dumb guy pretending to be smart while tearing apart a country? Silver lining on the latter is at least you see all the stuff they’re too dumb to hide.
The smart one, at least their shit will be calculated and not like a bull in a China shop on amphetamines after being taxed in the balls.
I see your point, though I don’t necessarily see it as a good thing. “Calculated” can be much more damaging depending on what the goal of the calculation is.
You people drink instant coffee. We are not the monsters here.
I’m genuinely unsure if drip coffee is better than instant.
Narrator: “It wasn’t”
Excellent work you horrible person
I’m ngl I have tea semi regularly, and I put the teabag in with the water to the microwave. The method works, I don’t see the problem.
Firstly, does the water not go all weird and frothy? Secondly, burn the heretic!
I don’t think I’ve ever had this issue. Here’s the full method.
Put teabag and spoonful of sugar into mug, pour maybe 2cm of water into mug. Nuke for about a minute. Let sit for a bit. Agitate the teabag a bit to get more of the delicious leaf juice out. Chuck out the tea bag. Pour in milk. Nuke for 20 secs. Done.
I think I’m going to be sick.
Seriously though, that sounds like a very different method to just pouring boiling water on the bag and then adding milk and sugar. Have you done both and compared?
I have not, I’ll give this method a try when I get a chance.
Did you enjoy your new cup of tea?
It’s been 3 weeks, haha, but yeah I got around to giving it a try. The verdict is… It’s basically the same. I will be continuing to do it the way that I did before since it’s easier, but I have enjoyed this experience of having my horizons broadened :D
I’m Canadian and we have a long heritage with English things … especially tea. But our brothers and sisters are American so we have a lot of overlap in our culture.
I grew up in northern Ontario in an indigenous community. Mom and dad were traditional people who were born and raised in the bush. They lived on your old English black tea. We treated it like a survival food and basically cooked it like it was coffee. All my life tea was made by boiling water in a large metal 4 litre tea pot and once there was a rolling boil, you dropped in eight tea bags and let it bubble for a minute until it all turned into a deep reddish liquid. The best tea was always in the first half an hour, after that it was like drinking a really strong coffee.
I drank that from the time I was a baby … really! I remember seeing mom fill a baby bottle with warm tea, canned milk and a bit of sugar and feed it to my baby brothers. I assume she did the same to me.
Once I started living away from home, I drank less tea and more coffee. But I always love my black tea.
Never order it in a restaurant in Canada. Half the time a cheap little restaurant will just use hot tap water and drop the shittiest tea bag thats been sitting on the shelf for years to make your brew.
The only public place to get good tea is at Tim Hortons, the Canadian coffee chain. They actually make the kind of tea I grew up with, really strong brewed tea that is kept fresh regularly. Their coffee is shit but their tea is excellent … at least to me.
Thanks for sharing your story. I bet that tea your parents made was also useful for a lot of things. Did they ever make you run on a treadmill afterwards to power a generator?
As a kid, me and every kid around me in the same situation probably drove our teachers insane … I feel terribly for them when I think about it now. But in the summer time when we were off school, I’d wake up drink a cup of tea, eat some toast and then spend the entire day outside, rain or shine. Starting when I was about seven or eight I’d spend the day on my own. We were surrounded by family so there was never a problem. I’d come home for more tea and supper was always at six, eat for ten minutes and head out again until the sun went down. We have freezing Arctic winters here between the great lakes and Hudson Bay but as a little kid, my parents thought it was normal to just give me a light parka and let me play outside with my friends for hours. I remember being about 11 or 12 and wandering away into the bush in minus 20 degree weather an hour from home with my friends just to say we could do it.
Always made our way back to the house for another cup of tea. That energy drink is basically what powered most of my life. I didn’t have a treadmill but I probably traveled thousands of kilometers because of this drink.
Tea … I’m probably 50% tea at this point in my life … I’ve been drinking it since the day I was born.
We’ve got a passport waiting for you at the border if you’re interested
Similar fond memories of growing up straddling English and American traditions on the wet Westcoast with English and Swedish grandparents.
My grandfather always had coffee brewing on the wood cookstove in his cabin. It was a metal 2 piece drip system. Always adding more hot water to the top as the day progressed. Like your example the first cups are the strongest. They had those white rogers sugar cubes and canned condensed milk from Pacific as creamer. Us grandkids would be bouncing off the walls from the caffeine and massive amounts of sugar most of the day.
Then at night with dinner it was Orange Pekoe tea with milk to finish the day. I’m surprised we got any sleep to be honest looking back on it.
Now living close to the US border I sometimes forget when I’m south tea is not such a normal thing in a restaurant and I get odd looks from those when ordering it. Usually they are the kind of place that serves Coke with breakfast though so I’m already in the wrong place for tea as it is.
For me Tea is the only thing I get from Tim’s too in the way of a London Fog. When it comes to Coffee Canadian McDonalds is my way to go. US McDonald’s coffee is something else terribly not enjoyable.
Im not a black tea drinker, Liptons was black tea growing up in the US and I did not like it. It is fine for sun/ice tea but still not my thing. But I visited Ireland and was exposed to Berry’s and I have to say that stuff is fantastic! But 2 minutes seeping is all it needs or else it gets bitter.
I visited a Tim Horton’s for the first time recently. It was in downtown Victoria and I have to say that it was an experience… Not a good one but at least I can say I have done it.
I have to say Tim Hortons has slipped. I’ve been in better versions of Tim’s in New York state where they are a little more like a mini cafeteria than the high traffic flow models the Canadian ones have become. At some point McDonald’s Canada took over coffee supply from Tim’s. Not sure who they are but Tim’s new coffee is not my cup of tea
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Well, the US once made the biggest cup of tea in history.
A whole harbor.
Americans make the worst tea. Cold and salty.
Cold and salty.
Sounds suitably British.
Now THAT was a wild party!
I doubt it, but now I wonder what the biggest amount of tea that ended up in the ocean is and how to search for it. I know whole ships were lost, but digging through manifests (assuming they exist) wouldn’t be fun. I also wonder how many in Asia there would have been, possibly before tea even gained popularity in the west.
I prefer to use one of my well-used coffee mugs. The one that’s heavily stained and makes everything taste like coffee no matter how many times you wash it.
That is only a bit worse than what British people do with their tea. OK, theirs is reasonably fresh, but they let the teabag sit in the pot for ages and they commit the serious, undefendable crime of adding milk.
Watch it. Builder’s tea is the literal backbone of the British economy.
Oh, wait.
Milk in Earl grey with honey is just amazing
You drown the flavour of the bergamote oil with the honey, and kill off most of the beneficient ingredients of the tea with the milk. What’s the point in using a tea bag in the first place?
Milk only belongs in chai tea
Chai literally means tea. So chai tea is tea tea. It’s like pizza pie or ATM machine.
pizza pie
Those two things are not remotely the same
The Americans seem to have a very wide definition of the word Pie and none of them seem to be pies.
It’s the same with brits and the word pudding…
Yes and but that’s just how the distinction is made. Prime example: Shiba/Akita “Inu”. Inu is literally dog. Yet it refers to the purebred dog of Japan, not the american shitmix (no shade, theres just not much consistency with what they’re mixed with). Language evolves over time, even the dumb evolutions.
I don’t think they’re engaging in etymological reductionism.
Their argument is that instead of saying “milk only belongs in chai tea”, one could’ve just said “milk only belongs in chai”.
Chia … tea. Chia … tea.
What about boba? Although I guess that’s arguably tea in milk, rather than milk in tea.
Hungary?
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Why did you forget to open the tea bag?
It’s a bit wet without a biscuit served. I suggest a rich tea or custard cream. If you can’t get those in the US, any of your weird ass deviant cookies will do.
We put our biscuits in gravy, hee-yuk!
ass deviant cookies are best cookies
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we get our tea from beans, we get our cookies from beans, and GODDAMIT some of us get our milk and sugar from beans too.
It’s the American way.
do you dunk it in after or place it in the mug and pour the water in?
Seeing as you know we call it dunking, not dipping, I suspect you’re actually British.
Fucking hell, mate. Always put the water in the mug before the tea bag.
What difference does that make?
I find it makes the tea slightly weaker. It sometimes gets too strong too quickly when very hot water is poured directly on the tea bag.
most teas shouldn’t be brewed in freshly boiled 100C water, but in roughly 90C
That’s roughly 194 degrees if your water is American.
You are fucking killing me in this thread
Well, you’ve just got to boil your water at 3000m then, it’ll be perfect.
Next you’ll tell me I’m supposed to but the milk in the bowl before the crumpets. Why I never!
Just make sure your clotted cream is on your spotted dick first then the baked beans, not the other way around! Unless you’re in Rickmansworth in which case your clotted cream goes on your black pudding after your mushy peas.
You know, I just realized I don’t have much of an appetite actually.
You are what you eat
That’s why you love jerk chicken.
and meatballs!
Wait, I’ve always put the teabag in first.
Teabag in, set cups aura, teabag out, water in, teabag in
aura ? ??
No
Is that because it cools enough to not scorch the tea? I always add tea last, even for a gallon of iced tea, it does seem to taste better; and I never press out the bags into anything other than the sink or my lantana.
I hope people know it’s extremely dangerous to microwave water :x
Good way to end up in the hospital room.
Not sure why the down votes but yes exploding hot water from a microwave is not a good time.
I generally don’t use a microwave but a sauce pan on the stove or a electric kettle is the safer way to boil water. There are other things one can do to make microwaved water safer though…
https://www.thekitchn.com/fact-or-fiction-exploding-wate-109388
No for real, most folks don’t know that. It’s very dangerous. Probably easier to boil in a pan on the stove.
It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup
If you’re talking about the microwave somehow doing something to the water to make it irradiated or something (which I’ve also seen claimed): no
No I’m talking about superheating - OP is putting water in a smooth glass vessel with no points for bubbles to form. IT REALLY is worth mentioning to the casual viewer.
There’s enough nucleation points, even in a pyrex measuring cup, to avoid superheating, as long as you’re just bringing it to a rolling boil at maximum (so like 3 minutes, tops), and then using it.
The real problem comes when you microwave the water for three minutes, forget about it, then microwave it again. The nucleation points you had the first time around are now too few. Now when you pour the water into another vessel - or even just jog the water in the existing vessel - it can suddenly and explosively boil over.
If you look videos up, people have been able to many times over reliably produce superheating phenomina and “bump” (the term for the explosion) boiled water in a glass cup. Just look it up, it’s actually a pretty common science experiment people have shown.
Mythbusters literally did an episode on it.
Not by heating 2 cups of water, once, for three minutes they haven’t.
You can literally go look it up. It’s widely avaliable info. Stop spreading dangerous disinformation.
From the comment you’re replying to:
superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup
It’s not worrying at all unless youve never used a microwave for this purpose. I’ve microwaved a shit ton of water in those exact Pyrex measuring cups and never had an issue with superheating. Nobody in my family ever has going all the way back to the 60s.
That’s called selection bias btw.
No one in my family has died in a car crash going back to their invention. Doesn’t mean anything.
No, it’s called experience with the device and situation at hand
I’m not claiming superheating doesn’t exist, I’m pointing out that the top level claim of “this is super dangerous” is fucking bunk
The people who’ve been burnt by super heated water also have experience with the device and situation at hand.
The variables involved in driving are not reliable. Even if you’re the safest driver you can still be involved in an accident. The same cannot be said about repeatedly boiling water in the same vessel for years, like the person you are responding to. They are not lucky in the same way drivers are to avoid accidents.
It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup
Ah, so I should just put my metal teaspoon in my cup and I’ll be fine?
(Don’t put metal in the microwave.)
As someone who has first hand witnessed a fair share of microwaves getting wrecked by people microwaving metal in them accidently, that answer is bullshit.
If the metal object gets near the (typically right) side of the microwave, it 100% will arc and at best short out the microwave, but at worst I have first hand seen it cause a fire.
The metal object effectively becomes quite a fair bit charged with electrons from the surrounding air from the microwaves running along its surface. This in turn slowly builds up a negative charge difference between the metal object and the surrounding walls.
At enough of a differential plasma will form and an arc of electricity will go from the metal object to anything it can get close to.
And if that “thing close to it” is the wall of the microwave that houses the actual unit in it, it can short out the electronics sitting in there.
Also, it can seriously harm someone if the microwave isn’t grounded properly (and boy is that unfortunately more common than you may think), and they are touching the frame of the microwave, as now they are the ground.
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
I AM THE GROUND NOW!
It’s not dangerous at all, superheating is rarely a thing and you can avoid it in a multitude of ways including slapping a spoon in your cup
Ah, so I should just put my metal teaspoon in my cup and I’ll be fine?
(Don’t put metal in the microwave.)
Yeah
including slapping a spoon in your cup That would mean microwaving a spoon which is even more dangerous…?
Unless you mean repeatedly stopping the microwave to stir the water and starting again…
At which point I have gotta ask: why not just use a kettle?
I’ve actually never heard this before. Is it specifically just water? Sometimes I microwave my coffee
Water becomes super heated and the steam held in by surface tension.(Iirc) I assume anything with enough water content and no way to relieve the bubbles can experience this. But I don’t know for sure.
I usually turn off the nuclear fusion setting, don’t need another accident like the last time.
Not if you stir it with a chopstick to make sure you release any bubble explosions.
Source: I nuke my coffee water every morning
Youd have to keep stopping and stirring it over and over, I’d rather just use an electric kettle.
I’ve been boiling water in the microwave for decades, the only dangerous thing about it is that it is hot like any boiling water. It’s also quick, efficient, doesn’t pollute your home like a gas stove, can be left on its own without fire hazard, and boil time is incredibly consistent.
Electric kettles are probably the best option, but a microwave is the second best option.
There is a random phenomina called “bumping” that occurs with heated up fluids in any form of smooth/glass container.
As you heat up the fluid, it can actually not go through its phase change to gas if it doesnt have a catalyst point to start off of. If the container is too smooth, it doesnt turn into a gas (yet)
When you introduce any kind of rough material or expose it to moving air, or literally just agitate it a bit… like say dip a spoon in, or shake it a bit, or stir it, or your hand isnt steady, suddenly a lot of the fluid, all at once, turns to a gas as it is in an unstable state.
What happens is very abruptly all the force of the boiling water happens very suddenly all at once, and the water explodes. Typically if its pretty hot this shatters the container, blows the water all over the place, and it’s all boiling hot and can cause first and second degree burns.
Its a common problem, if you google it you can find videos of people demo’ing the phenomina.
If you have ever seen those videos where a water bottle is carefully “frozen” but still liquid, and the person smacks it and the entire thing very suddenly freezes all at once, its the exact same effect but instead of all of it freezing at once, all of it boils at once.
Mythbusters did an episode on this one and was able to very reliably reproduce the effect.
The phenomenon doesn’t sound “random” as it can be predictably mitigated, it might involve randomness on the micro level but not the macro.
You’re also describing heating water far over the boiling point. It takes as much energy to vaporize about half of a cup of water as it does just to heat four cups of water from room temperature to boiling point. Just don’t do that, don’t put the water in for much longer than it needs to be. In fact there is no reason to bring the water to boiling temperature, it will be perfectly good for steeping tea or coffee at just below boiling temp. Still concerned? Put the spoon you are going to use to stir the tea in the measuring cup. Heat on a lower power level for longer.
I don’t take any of these precautions though. I know how long it takes to heat water. Your first time using a specific microwave you could use a thermometer and heat in half minute increments, that way you know exactly how long it will take in the future because the appliance is predictable, especially for heating straight water.
Regardless of safety it just makes sense from an environmental perspective to not heat water for longer than it takes to get to the temp you need it to be at.
You are now recommending the act of putting a metal object in a microwave as a solution to how already dangerous it can be to microwave water in a glass.
You are actively spreading dangerous disinformation that could cause a person serious harm. Stop that, bad internet stranger, bad.
Metal was your assumption. But also metal objects can be safe in a microwave. A metal spoon it is an optimal reflector of microwaves but in this case it is surrounded by water which is an optimal absorber. It’s dangerous to heat metal by itself but that is a moot point because it is also dangerous to microwave nothing at all…
I’m not spreading dangerous information, you are assuming dangerous operation. Cooking can be dangerous. But you are doing something akin to telling someone not to cook with oil because it can splatter and cause terrible burns, rather than informing them on safety precautions when cooking with oil. Rather than fear mongering about superheated fluids being an inevitability, you could tell someone to avoid superheating fluids, the simplest way being not overcooking. Which is very easy to do with a microwave because they are predictable and shut off on their own.
Step 1: Brew coffee. Step 2: Drink coffee.
Girl coffee is even more extra with the drip, espresso, French press, cold brew etc not to mention the different names for just how much milk or water is there.
To be fair it’s better than my process for making tea for myself.
Tea bag, sugar, cold water all go into a mug and into the microwave for three minutes. I forget about it for roughly an hour, then drink it as is.
That’s not tea. That’s an insult to those who came before us.
You could give it another short spin after the hour has passed.
What I usually do (for ~4 cups) is boiling 1,1 liters of water in a kettle, filling a teabag with 3-4 teaspoons of tea, rinsing the thermo bottle with the 0,1 liter of water, brewing the tea, then forgetting about it for 15-30 min, suddenly exclaiming “Oh, the tea!” (but in my own language) which, to me at least, is funny because (short story long) I once ordered a bunch of free Christian bumper stickers online, which I, long ago, before I even had this habit of forgetting the brewing bottle, had cut out into different words and letters of said christian bumper stickers and stuck onto the thermo bottle, reading (exactly) “Oh, the tea!”.
On a sidenote, no matter how long I usually forget it while it’s brewing, it’s always still too hot - and even never too strong. Pure Earl Grey - no milk, no sugar!
This all sounds about right, except maybe wiping your unwashed genitals around the rim of the cup before you start. Other than that, spot on.
What better way to start off the day than getting your eight essential vitamins on.
I just serve them yerba matte and watch them get dialed to eleven.
