Kinda curious because a lot of our heraldry and vexillology, although it looks great, it always include the same 2 or 3 symbols, like the hammer and sickle, red star, etc., and there isn’t much variations in the symbols used. So, staying away from stuff already used by Socialist states and movements, what are some non-Communist symbols do you think are a good fit for it?

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
    25·
    1 year ago

    It usually goes like this: “Guys, the hammer & sickle is outdated” or “we need new symbols which aren’t demonised to appeal to the masses” then “check my new idea”

    Aaaand it’s always some ultra or anarcho or succdem westolefto.

    • Sleepless One@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      No need to throw out the hamsic, but the lack of peasantry in imperial core countries makes the use of a symbol of unity between proles and peasants a bit odd.

    • aidnic@lemmygrad.mlOP
      15·
      1 year ago

      The hammer and sickle is great, it represents the masses probably the best out of any symbol we have, never saw it as outdated, nor do I want to appeal to the masses with new symbolism which isn’t demonized. But, I just feel we can use a lot more symbolism and be a lot more varied in our heraldry and vexillology. I’m just looking at this through a design perspective, and to sorta get us to think about what we can do.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        15·
        1 year ago

        I don’t disagree, it’s just that resigning from H&S is ofen talked and proposed by people who also resign from marxism.

        I think the best example for good change in symbolism is juche.

  • anicius@lemmygrad.ml
    12·
    1 year ago

    I’m not going to suggest dolphins because they have already been used, but I like animal imagery so I want to recommend a couple to consider.

    • Ants and Bees: strong association with working and communal effort
    • Crows: intelligent communal animals who are also a bit vengeful and represent transition
    • Flamingos: LGBTQ+ association and groups that works together while allowing individuality
    • Elephants: Big, stronk, and have deep community ties enough to morn each other

    The biggest issue is there may be difficulty translating animal imagery across cultural boundaries.

      • anicius@lemmygrad.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        In my mind, I included them with dolphins which were excluded. We know they are already fighting the good fight.

      • anicius@lemmygrad.ml
        3·
        1 year ago

        Rape and sexual coercion has been observed in many animals and is hardly unique to dolphins. If you look at humans we display horrific behavior on scales no animal is capable of especially to our prey(which may include humans). Dolphins are aggressive predators and sexually aggressive as well, but I don’t think it is reasonable to judge other animals using human morality. Dolphins exhibit altruism helping injured and dying members to stay afloat. Dolphins are able to communicate through vocalization with each other and are able to exhibit multigenerational social learning. Dolphins also exhibit other undesirable behaviors like infanticide. It’s important to have a nuanced view on the world and banish black and white moralism.

        I think it is import to respect animals and nature for what they actually are instead of what you want them to be, but for symbology most people don’t think rapist when they see a dolphin.

  • albigu@lemmygrad.mlPortuguês
    7·
    1 year ago

    I think any sort of food imagery that is popular in your country could work too. Not overly prepared bourgeois recipes, just the normal food of normal people.

    Have a rice.

  • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
    3·
    1 year ago

    Trees. I think they are a good indication of growth and change (Dialectics) and their life-giving oxygen is a good metaphor for how we give and take from society, we add to its value and growth, and it helps to sustain us.