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iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F::Widespread reports are circulating about the iPhone 15 overheating, seemingly across all models. Measurements taken with an infrared camera show…
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46.6˚C in normal units.
And if anyone’s wondering that’s 116°F in more normaler units
Edit: it’s a multi layered joke guys chill. Joke is Americans can’t read, the °F is in the title. The other joke is that American grammar is shit
Nearly 320K in the normalest units.
It’s exactly 1 in a new unit I just invented, it’s called 46.6˚C. So it’s 1 46.6˚C. And currently it’s nice 0.3 46.6˚C here.
You talking about 0.028 eV?
That’s 576R in a unit the Jedi wouldn’t tell you.
German actually.
YOU SHUT UP! FAHRENHEIT WAS AN AMERICAN! LIKE GALILEO!
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I loled. Fuck the haters
Lemmy can be pretty hostile to non-European standards. It’s weird… I wonder if Europeans are just using more accounts than Americans, and stacking votes.
If not… Then yikes, if Lemmy is losing the American audience, that’s bad news, friends.
Celsius and Fahrenheit are both European units. It’s just that Fahrenheit is used by less than 5% of the world’s population, so it’s completely reasonable to expect a post title on an international website like this to use Celsius.
Are you stupid? Lemmy isn’t hostile to the US. We are hostile to idiots who do not recognize standards. That this includes most of the US is just a coincidence.
You sure are worked up about this. Why? Calm down, bud.
I am 0 Kelvin calm
We’ve had enough of USdefaultism over there on reddit.
Yes, every European has at least 3 lemmy accounts, as required by the European constitution.
There are a lot more Europeans online than Americans (not to mention a few billion internet users on other continents), so when Americans post temperatures exclusively in Fahrenheit it comes across as kinda thoughtlessly parochial.
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Lol, second comment this morning I’ve seen someone complaining about their fundamentally incorrect statement is recieving “unfair” hostility…
No, you’re just wrong and people downvoted you because of it
You know if my phone suddenly reached 116 Celsius I’d have bigger problem that those.
115C is a 600W GPU’s throttle temp. I would love to see an iPhone pull off 600W with a battery.
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F makes more sense for this. It’s 0-100 on a scale of a human feeling too cold to too hot.
In situations where what’s being discussed is touching human skin: weather, a hot phone, water temp, etc… F does give you a quicker idea of things.
That said, downvote me away!
It only gives YOU a quicker idea because you are used to it.
I don’t deny that. But it’s also a well suited 0-100 scale for weather. It’s rare for a native C person to agree. I accept and expect the downvotes because hurr durr usa is dumb. To be clear, C is way better for anything other than things that touch my skin.
What’s this 0-100 scale you’re using? Just a personal comfort gauge that you’re assuming everyone uses? I’m American and it doesn’t even make sense to me. 70ish is room temperature, 98 is body temperature, 32 is freezing. That’s a really weird scale which doesn’t have any nuance to it especially since temperatures reach above 100 or below 0 in a lot of places. Add on that people like different temps and it’s really confusing.
For anyone willing to learn, a lot of devices have conversions from F to C. I have about half of my temp reporting equipment split so I can better understand C since all I personally knew was F. It also helps to have the formula in your head and convert it anytime you see F so you’ll slowly be comfortable knowing both of them. (Fahrenheit - 32) / 1.8 = Celsius, usually just do / 2 for a simpler time: i.e. 72F - 32 = 40 / 2 = 20C (really 22.222C but it gets you in the ballpark at least). It’s even easier to use the formula since 32 is Fahrenheit’s freezing temp so just always minus that away and divide by 2.
Like others have said, Fahrenheit is just easier for us because it’s what we grew up with and learned. It has nothing to do with the actual system besides personal experience. Thinking the “0-100” is a scale that makes sense when the bottom 3/4 is colder than comfortable room temperature is just being irrational.
The average temperature in the continental United States is just over 50 degrees while the extreme highs and lows are 100 and 0. Could make an argument that 0 is a bit too low.
Coincidentally, perhaps, but nonetheless you can’t deny it’s pretty good range for temperature of air in the US.
No need to downvote, I can handle someone having a different opinion.
Fahrenheit doesn’t give a shit about human temperature, he based it on some obscure things (which I can’t remember right now). It doesn’t even fit with human temperature, I think human temperature is like 97 or 98 °F or something like that. The argument was made only to have some argument, it’s not a property of Fahrenheit.
It does make exactly as much sense as Celsius with one important distinction - Celsius plays nicely with other SI units.
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how many foot-pounds does it take to heat 1 fl oz of water by 1° Fisfuck you.I don’t mean it’s body temperature. I mean it’s good for describing temperature felt by a human. The weather is a scale of 0 being too cold to 100 being too hot. The typical person never sees temperature outside this range in their weather, but a good bit of the full range.
When describing weather, you don’t care about 213 being boiling temp and converting to SI. In all Other uses, yes, C is better.
That’s just you being used to the imperial system. I have no problem describing the difference between 0°C, 20°C and 40°C.
I’m not saying it’s impossible to describe the difference in Celsius. What I’m saying is that the resolution is finer, and with the scale of 0 to 100 is quick to understand.
The fact is we like to have a scale between zero and 100 for things. That’s what Fahrenheit is for weather. I understand you don’t agree, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is. I use both C and F. I prefer F for weather.
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Honestly, I get your point, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a property of the scale, rather your increased familiarity with it. When someone says 68F I don’t have a mechanism to understand that, it’s not part of my experience. Saying 68% of too hot doesn’t help much at all. Whereas I can tell you exactly what I 40C feels like; and how that compares to anything from -15C to 45C, because of my familiarity with the scale.
Yes, familiarity with the scale definitely helps. But 50 degrees is halfway between burning up and freezing your ass off. Aka, light jacket weather.
Stupid us units had me thinking there would be fires everywhere for a moment.
46c… lmfao what a stupid headline.
That is absolutely NOT “hot”or “overheating” for a piece of tech under stress.
The phone housing is the heat sync, and the phone is more powerful than many people’s few year old laptops.
Not to defend apple but this is just trying to sensationalise and farm clicks, my pixel 7 used to get way hotter doing just normal tasks to the point I was getting overheat warnings and the screen would shut off.
Now if it was more like 55c I could see that being an issue at least from a comfort standpoint.
On top of this, pointing a thermal camera as an emissive surface like glass… not the most accurate way to actually get a temperature reading, they should have used a thermal couple… but I’m guessing that would have showed an even less exciting click bait number.
It is not comfortable to hold a 46C metal object in your hand.
It’s not “overheating” either though is it?
46c is not that hot at all, that’s like half as hot as a cup of coffee.
It’s probably not ideal… but also not at all new and about the same as my S22 ultra hits under load or when charging which runs far cooler than my previous pixel 7 which would actively overheat if you tried to run maps while charging it on a warm day, to the point it would force the screen to min brightness after about 30min.
Yeah, I’ve had overheating issues while running maps and charging on older iPhones too. Not with Apple Maps but with third party mapping software that pushed the CPU/GPU a little too hard. Doesn’t tend to happen on modern hardware with mature mapping software.
Also, iPhones do a lot of computation on your photo library while charging. They do things locally on device that Google would do in the cloud. Combine that (for years of photos and not just the ones you took in the last day or so) with normal heat from charging the battery and 46°C seems pretty reasonable to me.
It depends on how you’re holding it and how spread that heat is. 46° isn’t something great to be grasping for extended periods of time, but if you’re physically touching 30°C parts of the phone and a part with no physical contact with your skin is 46°C, it’s probably not that bad.
My s7 edge used to hit these temps. The annoying part was the throttling and shutdowns. I never really felt like I was burning my hands using the thing.
Excuse me, but this has “you’re holding it wrong” energy. And according to this page, 44°C is starting to feel painful to touch, and 47° is enough to cause 1st degree burn.
Proteins and enzymes begin to denaturate at temps >40°C, that’s why a feaver exceeding this temperature is dangerous and why we feel a warning pain at 44°C.
but it looks so cozy
I get where you’re coming from, but just because it isn’t hot when compared to a full throttle desktop CPU doesn’t mean it’s good for a device you hold with your bare hands.
Can you name one other thing in everyday life that you hold for hours on end, that gets 45+°C?
Udon straight outta the pot while I try to slurp it down?
I’m a slow eater okay?
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Lithium batteries aren’t going to thermal runaway at 46ºc.
Edit: I looked it up. it’s ~66º, so maybe closer for comfort that one would like.
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iirc iphones at least turn off if overheating so they might just be fine in that regard. sucks to get to your phone in the other room and find it turned off tho ig.
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It has also come out that there is a bug in the instagram app from what I’ve been reading.
This is causing a drastic increase in temperature and battery use on all iOS devices running ios17.
This could very well just be some app code bug that is caught in a processing loop.
It also explains why some people are seeing this and others are not, as not everyone is sitting on instagram while their phone is on charge.
Please take that common sense elsewhere. Here we don’t defend Apple since this is a general technology community. You are supposed to hate them no matter what. Only if this happens to an Android device, we try our best to understand.
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Obviously, you’re holding it wrong
This
It’s the hottest Apple iPhone yet!!
Just in time for autumn! A hand warmer!
Some context:
http://www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=15
At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.
So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?
I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.
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Or a game with some relatively large 3d model and textures. I guess that, if the average play time is about 45 minutes, then…not good at all. But who’d hold a triple digit temperature thing in his hands?
If the temp increase is slow, people don’t realize it’s hot unless they happen to put it down or reposition it.
When my son was younger, he burnt his legs by using a laptop on his lap. It got hot, he didn’t realize.
Same concept as being in the shower and very slowly changing the temp until you’re showering in fully hot/cold water.
Didn’t think about that, it’s like the frog in a pan example than…true
Ironically, a frog would actually jump out of the water if its temperature slowly increases.
Realistically speaking, since this is in fast charging only, and most people don’t let their phone battery drain to 0, I think it’s unlikely that 3rd degree burns will be an issue within reason. The iPhone 15’s reported to take about 30 minutes to charge from 0 to 50%, so if I assume the other 50% also takes 30 minutes, then really, someone won’t be hitting 45 minutes unless they’re charging from below 25% to full.[1]
That said, 3rd degree burns may be an issue once you slip a case on it that insulates the phone, making it yet hotter, and 2nd degree burns will be more of an issue too. I’d be interested in seeing what the peak temp is during fast charging with a case on, especially one of the thicker cases. If it internally gets to more than 140 degrees Fahrenheit, there’s absolutely risk that it could explode, and even if it’s not doing it externally, internally it may be nearing those temps.
I know charging isn’t actually linear progression, but I don’t really wanna do the math. ↩︎
Iphones have fast charging now?
Apparently. I’d drop dead before I buy one myself but a friend told me today that with fast charging the 15 charges to 100% in 55 minutes.
Sooo… still fast charging speeds from over 5 years ago. What have they messed up for it to heat up like that? Lmao
Well naturally this is a brand new technology that Tim Apple invented last week. It’s the best in the industry and really, $1000 for a phone this cutting edge is a bargain, even if it can literally burn your hands. /s
Complete opposite. I’ve never seen any other group of people let their phone drop so low. It’s like they do it on purpose. I blame the lack of battery % so they don’t get the anxiety effects.
What about 1st degree burns? Would these be ok?
So? My 250€ Motorola also has this feature, they are slacking behind
How long do you figure it’ll take them to make a phone that triggers nuclear fusion? Asking for a friend.
Oh no 116f, like seriously guys this will melt the Popsicle in my pocket
That’s the treshold for you to get a 1st degree burn. No, it’s not instantaneous at that temperature, but it certainly denotes that it shouldn’t get there at all.
After several hours of unventilated and insulated continuous unmoving and firm contact… definitely at risk of first degree burns here.
This is just to get clicks.
“several hours”
Apple apologists amaze me. This isn’t a fucking cpu inside a shell, it’s the outside of a handheld device.
I had a feeling you were smuggling a popsicle.
And it’s in the prison pocket, to be specific.
Thats nothing.? Sneakily using fahrrneit to make it sound like a big deal. I hate Apple as much as the next guy but this is exploitative journalism
What? 116 degrees is pretty dang hot.
Edit: It’s literally at the threshold of a first degree burn.
Its insides getting that hot doesn’t matter hell it is more than normal for a phone under heavy load(gaming and stuff)
If you read the article its the entire phone that gets hot, not just the “insides”. While a slight increase in temp under heavy load is normal, becoming too hot to even pick up is not.
I mean come on, this is a design flaw without question, you can easily get burned by a 115°F metal case.
I see yea I just read the headline on here hence my uninformed take
Apple themselves say that a phone at consistently higher than 35C will suffer from battery capacity damage
There are at least two countries in the world that use Fahrenheit in a regular basis. US is one of them.
I’ll rather they use Celsius, but still it’s weird to think this is only to make “exploitative journalism”.
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Tested Genshin and it’s worse at higher temperatures.
This reminds me of the Samsung Phone incident… not as bad as that but it’s just something that popped up in my mind.
Are Apple fanboys not happy with their magic boxes called “smartphones” that just works? xD
if you want a phone that “just works” BUY A FLIP PHONE
What about A BRICK PHONE???
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Have they fixed their update policy at long last? Back when I had an X Style it took literally over a year to get the newest version of their nearly stock skin of Android.
If it’s not uncomfortable to hold or triggers the built in heat warning then you are fine. This isn’t a gameboy in the Kuwait sun.
Temps over 35C can cause damage to batteries capacity.
My batteries, who are located in a geographic region with common room temperatures above 35ºC:
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