Yea I kind of agree and it pains me a little because I have some sympathy for the guy
Definitely don’t agree with the commenter’s take on his acting, but what a utopian future it would be if everyone could be critical of a person’s work while also remaining an ally.
an ally hater, love to see it
What’s wrong with Elliot Page’s acting? I thought he was fine in previous works I’ve seen him in. Maybe not Oscar-winning but I’ve seen plenty worse.
I think he’s forgettable, but I wouldn’t say bad. There are actors who really stand out with a lack of acting ability. He’s just boring.
Absolutely nothing. If you make through Juno without at least grudging appreciation for his craft, I don’t know what to tell you.
I was so pumped on him after Juno, but I haven’t loved him in anything since.
I liked him in Super with Rainn Wilson. It wasn’t a perfect movie but I thought his performance was fine and it was a fitting movie to anticipate the Marvel saturation in the coming years (which director James Gunn would eventually actively participate in).
I also thought he was fine in Inception. Not the standout performance of the movie but I didn’t walk out thinking “ugh, Elliot Page really gunked that up” or anything, and he apparently worked well enough with Christopher Nolan to get brought back in for The Odyssey.
Very good shout out with Super. I had forgotten that and he was truly amazing in it! While I don’t think he as terrible in Inception I don’t think it was a very good fit.
I’m partial to Whip It too, but that’s probably just a me-thing.
Fair enough, he was fine in it but far from the main draw for me.
TBF I’ve just been really into Drew Barrymore since I saw ET in the theatre.
I can understand that.
Same. I haven’t seen him in much (Umbrella Academy most recently), but he seems to be a decent actor. Nothing to get excited about, but not a bad actor by any stretch. He’s better than average, imo. I don’t understand the hate.
Looking at his profile, I didn’t even know there was a Flatliners remake. Gonna have to go watch that now.
frankly never seen him in anything (not even Inception)
Oh wow, hes so forgettable, I forgot he was in Inception…
frankly never seen him in anything (not even Inception)
inception was fun, you should try it. Watch it on the worst display device you can for extra points (Nolan wanted people to get covid and make the pandemic worse, because he wanted people to see Tenet in cinemas instead of at home during the height of the pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenet_(film)#Theatrical )
I liked him in that Hard Candy movie but I haven’t seen that since I was 12 so maybe it hasn’t aged well
How do you refer to trans people in the past? Like, Elliot was Ellen back when he did those movies, do you still call him he even though he was a she when he did the thing? I think I’m confusing myself now
The general wisdom is to use the person’s current identification and project it into the past. He was always Elliot. We didn’t know then, but we know that now.
Some individuals will have a different understanding of their personal journey. (I was a boy then, but now I’m a woman)
Personally I struggle with referring to child me as a girl. I didn’t look like a girl or act like a stereotypical girl, and certainly wasn’t treated as a girl. But I don’t think I was really a boy either.
I do prefer for people to use my name now about past me, not my name then.
In the absence of particular knowledge about an individual’s preferences or conception of their transition, my default assumption would be to refer to them with their current preferred terminology, even if that wasn’t how they presented at that time. Or, rather, I wouldn’t think of it as “he was a she when he did the thing”, instead it’s closer to “he was always a he, even if he didn’t know he wasn’t a she at the time”.
However, I’m a cis male, so maybe don’t accept my default behaviors as gospel truth in this arena lol. If I were to transition, it’s how I’d think of the process. However, a gal I used to bartend with absolutely divides her life into her Chad phase and then her Callie phase. For whatever reason, that’s what works for her, and I’ll work within that context if it comes up.
As a general rule, I would always use current preferred pronouns. If context is really needed for some reason I’d say something like "In Juno, before he transitioned, he was…’
I stick with current pronouns usually but I think both are okay, he identified as a girl when he was in that movie and played the role of a girl, so I think calling at least the character “she” is perfectly legit… when talking about the actor I go with “he”, but I dunno. Yeah I guess it’s up to the person I’m talking about‘s opinion?
The character is certainly a she. Juno is a girl. Men can play women and women can play men.
Elliot was a young man playing a girl, even if we didn’t know that at the time.
Don’t worry it holds up. Also a great Patrick Wilson role.
That one and “mouth to mouth” 👌
otoh gaycation was amazing and i wish we could get another season especially given all of this gestures at the world
What is otoh gaycation? Haven’t heard of it and need an escape from reality right now.
otoh = on the other hand
also don’t watch gaycation if you need an escape from reality, it’s the exact opposite of that
yeah gaycation was elliot’s show before transition where he went around the world looking at lgbtq life and communities in various countries (the most famous episode being brazil where he faced off against future president, bolsonaro).
sorry; i didn’t mean it as an escape; i meant it’s needed as an education and expression of lgbt life in the face of hate.
it’s okay, i didn’t think u meant it as one.
What type of escape from reality are you looking for? I’ve officially seen too many shows, maybe I can recommend something. Does it have to be gay though? I just don’t think I’ve seen any fun LGBT focused stuff lately.
