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    Yea, sounds like a good plan.

    Can we men please join in? I feel dysfunctional enough for the purpose as is

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      Yeah and also the “civilization” women destroy is purely the put men first civilization - the only civilization they’re interested in

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      Yeah. I mean we keep trying, but they, kostly men, and mkst consistently these exact men keep getting in the way.

      To misattribute a quote to a much cooler misogynist: the creative urge is also a destructive urge.

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    “Malfunction” made me feel slightly sick. There’s no shortage of misogynist rhetoric that paints women as animals, but this guy takes it a step further into reasoning about them like they’re machines.

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    “Women need the patriarchy because, without the patriarchy, there wouldn’t be a patriarchy”

    Tautology Club meets in the Tautology Club room

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    Pretty sure the patriarchy and toxic masculinity is precisely why young men are having a loneliness epidemic and some are even doing mass murders, no thanks, dipshit.

    Egalitarianism is the future.

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    Segregation of labor really started just recently. Go back 10000 years and you’ll find a more even split of roles. 10000 years is fairly evolutionarily negligible- we’re largely the same, aside from some immunity quirks, homeostasis tweaks, gamete peculiarity, and cultural differences.

    Pluck a baby from way back and raise it today and you’ll just be raising a pretty average immunocompromised baby.

    All of that to say, “women should be in the kitchen for their own good” is unsupported by an even slightly broadened perspective. I’m pretty sure Vikings aren’t coming to rape and plunder your 200 person town, bud. Hiding your wife away is just abusive.

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      Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSRs policies pushing more women into these careers.

      People don’t realise that these norms they hold as dogma are so short-lived and subject to change that opposition only shows them unable to comprehend history past their lived experience.

      It’s ashame they have to drag us down with them.

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        While true, there is other issues with gender inequality in Eastern Europe like relatively higher domestic violence towards women and legislature to enable it in countries like Russia.

        Inequality is a complex issue and needs to be looked at holistically. I have a feeling that often there is a focus on work and “career” although later seems to be mostly measured in some women who made it to C-levels. In that sense it remains an issue of women being supposed to “function” in a narrow line, rather than the system as a whole being questioned.

        More women working full time is sold as a success of emancipation, despite it meaning more work overall for women who have children as some care work is difficult to delegate. At the same time it is a massive loss, that a lot of “life goals” like owning your own home require two full time income or just aren’t reachable any more despite higher education levels.

        When it comes to single parents, poverty becomes a strong problem and it helps enable abusive relationships as people are economically compelled to stay with an abusive partner. This issue moved on from the stay at home wives to women working full time too.

        More income and less working hours are needed generally, and should help emancipation of women even more. In the eyes of capitalists that would be a grave “malfunction”.

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        I’ve seen some people talk about that as the harmful legacy of the USSR.

        Mind you as a female engineer I agree with the communists about women.

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          Shit dawg all you had to say is citation needed.

          Thornton, A., 2019. Gender equality in STEM is possible

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            Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSR

            around eastern europe -> contries in eastern europe that dont support this claim dont count obviously

            due to ussr -> ussr not mentioned in citation

            Anyway, this is a way too broad statistic that clumps together tons of fields which are actually pretty split. Basically statistics gerrymandering.

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      During the golden age of the “American dream” where a man had a car, a house, and a family, didn’t the housewives end up relying on all sorts of pills and shit to not go crazy stuck in the house all day?

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        Pills, shopping, and racism. Historically, people have always numbed their minds to cope with the rapidly changing reality we live in, though largely with alcohol and funny plants.

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          I must admit a cold beer and some funny plants do make me feel a little less distressed about the world being on fire.

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      10000y is an incredibly long time if you believe the earth is only 2000 years old, or whatever these idiots believe.

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      If i go into the kitchen it tends to annoy the husband as i’m intruding upon his Golden Triangle.

      Unless there’s tea being made.

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    It’s crazy that people like this actually exist. Like don’t you have your own problems to solve? How do you even have time to pedal this sexist garbage.

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    they malfunction and destroy civilizations

    …much like politicians these days!

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    It really is the worst when shitbags like this take what could be a useful, healthy nugget of advice and paint over it with their antisocial garbage.

    For all people, having a “mission” in life, finding a purpose, and having something to look forward to are all generally good things that are good for you.

    Your mission that you look forward to does not need to be any specific thing that some scumbag who does not care about you prescribes.

    For those of us who want families and have them, and considering that we are a social species, it also turns out that your partner, your kid(s), and your immediate environment that you can control (home) can be a pretty significant and rewarding part of your purpose each day!

    It’s just a part of how conservatives think that they can claim a monopoly on family values while actively destroying families left and right. Which in turn is part of their warped view of the world where to love X means hating that which is non-X.

    I have the most traditional looking family you can imagine. It works great for us, and I say fuck messages like the one in the OP that say our individual paths to fulfillment must look alike.

    Many of our paths DO look alike, because there are billions of us living in the same world, and that’s why it’s worth sharing anecdotes and advice while we shout down the “thou shalt” garbage.

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    The mental image in my head is asking a lady the time and she turns and looks at you, opens her mouth to speak and black smoke starts billowing out and she starts shooting sparks at you.

    It’s easy to think that if half your population were eldritch horrors civilization would have a bit of trouble.

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        I practice the most unsettling smile i can, and do it in really jerky movements. Wheeze while i do. Talk on both the inhale and exhale while it’s maintained.

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          Does that work? I’ve tried:

          • Pretending I’m hearing disabled(problematic, I know)
          • Telling them to eat shit and die
          • Speaking really fast and fiercely in a made up language
          • Keep asking “What was that?” until they stop trying

          By far the most successful was when walking home with a bag of meal worms(for my pet tarantula,) I dumped them on his lap and ran away.

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            Sometimes if i nail the acting. Im pretty good at uncanny.

            I always want to kick them in the balls and then smile genuinely, but only ever did that once.

            You’re my muse re:worms

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              Nice. A kick to the balls is the only appropriate reaction if you don’t have worms. And worms are cheap!

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    This is in contrast to men, who will bring about a utopia without hunger, homelessness, war and crime. Wait.

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      See the men will bring a utopia of hunger, homelessness, war, and crime. And if you call it anything other than a utopia they’ll act as though you’re spitting on the very foundations of Omelas.

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    This man, and all men (yes, all) who hold this belief are actually weak men who are jealous and threatened by women. They need therapy to address the root cause of their toxic masculinity, not arbitrary power over half the population.

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      Also the culture that causes toxic masculinity in first place needs to change, any amount of therapy alone won’t fix the situation. Treating it only as a personal problem is like treating symptoms of a plague but leaving it rampant. But how to nuke the idiocy on a cultural level…? Things seem to have even taken a turn for the worse lately…