Picked a couple up for $0.78 yesterday at the local Mexican supermarket.
You know, the people our nation is actively persecuting.
Username checks out.
I have a job at a large corporate retail store and we recently raised a lot of prices, mostly for things that haven’t been hit by tariffs yet. The owner is using the tariffs as an excuse to jack up prices for no reason. Even if all the tariffs were done away with tomorrow, corporate America is still going to jack up the prices.
But have you thought about the shareholders?
I have, and on a related note, I also think of guillotines.
Maaaaan I hate when I find out news through memes. Fucking hell. Moron-in-chief for sure.
Today i learned that in the us arizona tea is extremely good and cheap, while here in europe you can only get it imported so its pretty expensive…
Arizona Ice Tea isn’t good tea though?
Also mediocre tasting sugar water
It’s so gross. People are always praising them for being so cheap, when it’s quite literally just sugar water that tastes like is was bottled 10 years ago
Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what’s essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it’s partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren’t vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients
Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they’ve just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.
I’m not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they’re to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I’ve heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that’s true.
I’ll gladly be proven otherwise - don’t know enough about them tbh
Vegans don’t eat Honey? Huh.
Makes sense when you think about it, tho.
All that honeybee suffering…
It’s a lack of human imagination to think that animals without eyebrows can’t suffer.
There are parts of (industrial) beekeeping that aren’t ethical. It’s up to people themselves to decide if they are comfortable with that.
For example outcompeting other native pollinators, culling entire hives by drowning or gassing is a thing, clipping the wings of the queen to prevent swarming, increased risk of disease due to lower nutritional value of sugar water
In Europe without industrial honey bees we would not have apples, crops amd stuff because they are almost solely responsible for the pollination.
Fun stuff, but you forgot that we reduced wild pollinator population by around 70%? Mainly due to the monoculture agriculture, and pesticide usage? The thing they are now needed for?
Yeah well the reason for the reduced species diversity is the human. I thought this was obvious.
Wait a sec, you’re saying humans are the problem?
Part of the problem, part of the solution.
What’s an industrial honeybee? In my head I have bees buzzing around wearing tiny hi-vis vests and helmets.
They listen to Nine Inch Nails and work in factories.
So basically all honey you buy is made by the European honey bee, which is known for making lots of honey. Beekeepers place them in boxes and collect the honey. And basically once you have more than 20 hives you are commercially viable and that is what I mean with industrial
Asia has a different kind of bee that Beekeepers breed, but almost all of the rest of the world is using the same species.
Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It’s nectar?
Please don’t tell me it’s to do with exploitation of insects.
Why are you so aggressive in asking something? Do you expect people to help you like that?
Sorry you had to read a swear word, do you need a a lie down and a snack?
I actually am tired and hungry, so yes, I will. And I am not offended by swear words. It was the phrasing, and it seems I am not the only one.
I hope you find calmness in life.
Police someone else’s tone you odd little thing.
nah tone policing is when you tell the gays to be less flamboyant so straight people will like them, or whine about how ridiculous you think vegans are and imply they should be less silly if they want to be taken seriously.
what’s going on here is it was politely suggested to you that nobody wants to engage because the thing you said sounds less like a genuine question asked in good faith and more like you have a shitty attitude that you want reaffirmed.
Don’t worry, they’ll be just as hypocritical as any other virtue-signaling group. Bees make honey, honey bad. But they’ll act like pollenators aren’t needed for crops or something. Or ignore that beekeepers will take their hives out to farms to pollinate various crops, like avocado. Or that bees seem to, on some level, understand that they have a great deal going. They’re not trapped in the hives; they could leave at anytime but don’t. And their honey production is higher than that of wild bees. And they have a higher survival rate because the beekeeper ensures they’re safe from predators, or from the elements, and from disease. Every beekeeper I’ve ever seen absolutely love their bees.
But the fun part, is not all vegans think like this. Because it’s a “contentious” topic among them. For one, why does anyone care what anyone eats? Like, as long as it’s not cannibalism, I don’t give a shit. But vegans, from what I gather, will “rank” themselves to other vegans to see who’s more vegan than the other. It really reminds me of the “church ladies”. The type who judge you for not being churchy enough, who brag about how much church they go to, how much they “do for the church”, a “higher than thou” mentality. Some vegans are closer to vegetarians, with just additional restrictions. So just like any group, it’s not all… it’s just a really loud minority that tries to speak for everyone.
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It has to do with the exploitation of insects.
What about the exploitation of animals ecosystems for farming? Those murderous vegetables!
I’m glad you asked. Fruitarians have an answer to that moral dilemma.
Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they’re more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there’s an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there’s the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that’s not ours for the taking.
Farming has an far greater impact on the ecosystem. There is no way to live for humans without completely reshaping their environment. We evolved as an invasive species.
If you’re moral argument to call for a boycott of honey is honey bee’s impact on the ecosystem rather than their enslavement and exploitation to humans, your only reasonable moral course of action is Fruitarianism using only fruits growing in the wild - basically an Orang Utan or Gorilla lifestyle. That choice has been made some 4-5 million years ago, when our ancesters became an invasive species in the savanna and began our first reshaping of ecosystems. Good luck reversing that choice.
No, it was not meant as a moral argument but the ecological impact of eating honey and supporting honey farming and beekeeping, as stated in my comment. The ethical argument is the same with any other animal that could be, but shouldn’t be from my point of view, exploited for our gain.
Plus there’s a difference between harvesting the literal nourishment of a species that requires it for their own suatainment and using them for crops and their pollination: one of them is easily avoidable and unnecessary, the other is a necessary evil but ultimately still required if I want to keep on living.
The most ecological and ethically sound conclusion then would be to just stop existing, but I don’t have a deathwish, so that’s the least harmful option out of the ones I have.
Capitalism is founded on exploitation of other people, our environment, animals, whatnot, so I don’t have any other option until capitalism is overturned and another form of governing rule is established, desirable but currently not possible, so all I can do is minimise the impact I have on the environment, on animals, on other people as much as possible.
About the call for boycotts: Sure, if it were up to me, I’d rather humanity abstain from animal exploitation as a whole, but I’m not evangelising people to come over to veganism. Either you want to make a change one way or another or you don’t - not gonna bother trying to convince people. I’m over that.
These fucking vegans care for insects now? That makes me so mad.
the entire concept of veganism is using no animal products my dude
We’ll know we’re in trouble when Costco raises the price of the hotdog
Or the chicken.
Why are they using anything imported anyways? All that the tariffs have done in my life so far is make me question what these “local” “American” companies have been doing. Mind you, two phrases have come back into my speech:
“No company is your friend, even if they make something you like.” & " Silence, brand!"
Companies affected by the tariffs are now among the companies whose products I actively avoid.
Why are they using anything imported anyways?
Ah yes, let me just buy local from all of the American tea farms, American bauxite mines, and American aluminum refineries. Oh wait, America doesn’t actually produce meaningful amounts of any of those resources. Pretty much the only thing Arizona would reasonably be able to buy domestically is the sugar.
Not to mention any part of the factory automation technology. Capacitors on the circuit board are made in Japan if they’re decent, motor windings from China, solenoids , the lot.
The US imports lots of Aluminium and refines it into Aluminum
And most US sugar is foreign sourced.
Why are they using anything imported anyways?
Could be just aluminum for the cans, doesnt have to be that they are importing anything just that suppliers are.
I don’t exempt a company from doing something if their supplier does it. They’re at least complicit.
Complicit in… Importing goods that aren’t made in the US or have a substantially more limited supply?
What are you saying they are complicit in here, trade with other companies?
The practices and policies of their suppliers. If the supply is limited, let it be limited.
The practices of buying goods for production? That some resources (aluminum) exist in other parts of the world? That others (tea) are better produced in a different climate?
What the hell are you even talking about?
Edit: Just to be clear here - this is a manufactured problem by the POTUS. There is absolutely no reason for the tariffs other than a complete lack of understanding of basic economics. Capitalism (especially effectively unregulated as it is now) is atrocious, but this isn’t an example of capitalism being a problem (well aside from it being used as an excuse to raise prices).
This is just stupid policies being enacted. Its a tax on Americans and nothing else. This is just as insanely idiotic as slashing a bunch of programs that idiots dont bother to understand, which either are a net benefit for the US or an extremely cheap global benefit, whether humanitarian or economic.
Short answer: the people in charge are ignorant and destructive.
Tea famously does not grow in the US.
Plus, they sell in aluminum cans, which probably are sourced from Canada or Mexico, or are made in the US from aluminum sourced from Canada or Mexico.
And of course all of their machinery requires upkeep using parts and chemicals which may or may not be made abroad.
Tea absolutely can grow in the US, we just don’t grow much of it.
Here is a personal favorite of mine. Silence brands everywhere.
It’s the raw goods that American companies need. Most American manufacturers assemble in the United States. So they have to raise prices because if the raw goods imported.
Trump is so dumb he doesn’t think past his tiny ass hands.
If the companies were responsible with all that recycling we’ve been doing over the last half-century, they wouldn’t need to import raw metal. We’d be able to reuse all that glass and metal.
I guess this might be the only way to get American consumers to understand that the point was always Reduce, reuse, and recycle in descending importance; rather than the other way around.
Here in Finland it costs 3.50 in Eur…
They are also pretty expensive here in Germany, though a few stores sell some select flavors for less than 1€.
I’ve seen them at $2 at gas stations
I think you can report that to the company and they’ll stop selling it to that place
Nah if the company specifically contracts with Arizona to put their branding where the 99c would go they can do that.
I didn’t know that! that kinda sucks though :(
Not sure if my stripes has their branding on it
I make Southern sweet tea .yself from time to time. Amazing.
i don’t do the sugar anymore but damn i miss a good cup (okay gallon) of sweet tea
Just got some at my local HEB, they’re still ¢87 there
